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JCoop Elect Only Patriots Joined Jan 2008 Posts 4054 EE 0% (0) NH, USA	Posted: 11/14/2018 6:24:12 PM EDT [#1] Bump again. This is too good to lose.
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D-RAS03 Quiet Observer Joined Sep 2005 Posts 6165 EE 100% (16) PA, USA	Posted: 11/14/2018 8:14:28 PM EDT [#2] The pictures are gone. Does anyone have them saved to repost?
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CAKEPWNER Gear Whore Joined May 2016 Posts 5875 EE 100% (15) USA	Posted: 11/14/2018 10:24:15 PM EDT [#3] Quote History Originally Posted By JCoop: Bump again. This is too good to lose. View Quote It was last bumped almost 8 months ago. I'm pretty sure the mods set it to not go into archive otherwise it would have been archived way back then.
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JCoop Elect Only Patriots Joined Jan 2008 Posts 4055 EE 0% (0) NH, USA	Posted: 11/15/2018 9:55:09 AM EDT [#4] Quote History Originally Posted By CAKEPWNER: It was last bumped almost 8 months ago. I'm pretty sure the mods set it to not go into archive otherwise it would have been archived way back then. View Quote Good point.
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D-RAS03 Quiet Observer Joined Sep 2005 Posts 6290 EE 100% (16) PA, USA	Posted: 12/12/2018 6:28:28 PM EDT [Last Edit: D-RAS03] [#5] @raf @joker581 Could we get this picture back in the OP? It's the only one I could find and it's to big for me to post. http://sixty-six.org/files/thorax_anterior.jpg
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raf Member Joined May 2001 Posts 37386 EE 100% (17) RI, USA	Posted: 12/12/2018 7:53:40 PM EDT [#6] Quote History Originally Posted By D-RAS03: @raf @joker581 Could we get this picture back in the OP? It's the only one I could find and it's to big for me to post. http://sixty-six.org/files/thorax_anterior.jpg View Quote OK, done.
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D-RAS03 Quiet Observer Joined Sep 2005 Posts 6291 EE 100% (16) PA, USA	Posted: 12/12/2018 8:00:00 PM EDT [#7] Quote History Originally Posted By raf: OK, done. View Quote Thanks raf. Does anyone else have the other pictures?
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D-RAS03 Quiet Observer Joined Sep 2005 Posts 6292 EE 100% (16) PA, USA	Posted: 12/12/2018 8:25:32 PM EDT [#8] @raf I found the back picture. Attached File
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Unicephalon Joined Feb 2017 Posts 87 EE 0% (0) USA	Posted: 12/13/2018 9:07:30 AM EDT [#9] There's this. It's downloadable, and the side picture (among others) is there. It's very good info!

panzerr Joined Dec 2005 Posts 12 EE 100% (2) MN, USA	Posted: 1/30/2019 12:21:58 PM EDT [#10] As the author, I can point everyone in the right direction. My updated information can be found here: http://sixty-six.org/ The proper wear of body armor PDF can be found here: http://sixty-six.org/files/GUNFIGHTER_ANATOMY_proper_wear_of_armor.pdf

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Posted: 1/24/2020 9:32:38 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By PFC_Dustin:
Had the same convo with my wife, minus the life flight comment lol. She cried. I just told her Ive got time with the lower half and can still fight a bit, but it didnt help much.

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Originally Posted By Pita_146:
When I got my plates I was trying them on and showing them off for the wife. She was pretty upset by the fact that the plates didn't cover my lower abdominal region and asked me "what happens if you get shot there"

I replied "That's what life flight is for"

She didn't think I was nearly as funny as I thought I was.

Had the same convo with my wife, minus the life flight comment lol. She cried. I just told her Ive got time with the lower half and can still fight a bit, but it didnt help much.

You kinda don't...

There is a huge misperception that you can get shot outside the heart/lungs and it will magically be ok because doctors...

That's just not true. Your spinal cord is there...as are several arterial blood flows that are internal and likely impossible to shut off. The lower abdomen and pelvic region are horrible places to get shot. Internal bleeding, painful, and deadly.

This mindset of "I'm a ninja in a sexy plate carrier from Crye who doesn't need ballistic protection outside this 4 inch square because operator operator operator is going to get people killed.

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Posted: 10/19/2023 11:10:13 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By panzerr:
As the author, I can point everyone in the right direction.

My updated information can be found here: http://sixty-six.org/

The proper wear of body armor PDF can be found here: http://sixty-six.org/files/GUNFIGHTER_ANATOMY_proper_wear_of_armor.pdf

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@panzerr

What happened to the body armor PDF on your page?

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glklvr Member Joined Feb 2003 Posts 28575 EE 100% (412) SC, USA	Posted: 10/20/2023 6:00:45 AM EDT [#15] Lol I was wondering why this thread got bumped.

RABIDFOX50 Joined Sep 2002 Posts 32221 EE 100% (40) FL, USA	Posted: 10/20/2023 6:34:12 AM EDT [#16] Quote History Originally Posted By NapeSticksToKids: Also, 4 posts since dec 2005? Ultra lurker status View Quote Never underestimate the least vocal man in the room. He has already assessed the room and its contents and has formulated several ways to escape, evade and kill everyone in said room!

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Posted: 10/20/2023 8:17:59 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By panzerr:
As the author, I can point everyone in the right direction.

My updated information can be found here: http://sixty-six.org/

The proper wear of body armor PDF can be found here: http://sixty-six.org/files/GUNFIGHTER_ANATOMY_proper_wear_of_armor.pdf

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Those links appear to be dead.
Any new sources / locations?
@panzerr

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GunsAndGoats Team Member Joined Apr 2001 Posts 13675 EE 100% (157) ASM	Posted: 10/20/2023 8:25:05 PM EDT [#18] Interesting
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slappomatt Elevator constructor Callsign: Lethal. Joined Jan 2006 Posts 27893 EE 100% (26) CA, USA	Posted: 10/20/2023 11:33:21 PM EDT [#20] found this on google. https://tirotactico.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/proper-wear-of-hard-armor-by-gregory-roberts.pdf
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glklvr Member Joined Feb 2003 Posts 28586 EE 100% (412) SC, USA	Posted: 10/22/2023 9:44:24 AM EDT [Last Edit: glklvr] [#21] Well I hope nobody minds. Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File

glklvr Member Joined Feb 2003 Posts 28587 EE 100% (412) SC, USA	Posted: 10/22/2023 9:45:53 AM EDT [#22] Attached File Attached File

panzerr Joined Dec 2005 Posts 27 EE 100% (2) MN, USA	Posted: 11/25/2023 9:15:02 AM EDT [#23] I've fixed the link for my last version of this document. You can find it here: http://sixty-six.org/files/GUNFIGHTER_ANATOMY_proper_wear_of_armor.pdf I plan to update this document this winter. Anyone may use it, however I would appreciate credit if you're going to use my verbiage to make money. I can think of a certain YouTuber here.

RattleCanAR A Grendel's Love is different from a 5.56's Love Joined Nov 2010 Posts 35139 EE 100% (1) SC, USA	Posted: 11/25/2023 9:45:26 AM EDT [#24] Good information.
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Posted: 11/27/2023 4:08:14 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By panzerr:
I've fixed the link for my last version of this document. You can find it here: http://sixty-six.org/files/GUNFIGHTER_ANATOMY_proper_wear_of_armor.pdf

I plan to update this document this winter.

Anyone may use it, however I would appreciate credit if you're going to use my verbiage to make money. I can think of a certain YouTuber here.

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You should edit your original post to include the anatomical diagrams or put the link above in there.

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raf Member Joined May 2001 Posts 42947 EE 100% (17) RI, USA	Posted: 11/27/2023 5:24:30 PM EDT [Last Edit: raf] [#26] IDK, but very discrete wearing of soft armor on "some" public ranges might be beneficial. FWIW, I've taken to wearing low-profile soft body armor on my local Private range. YMMV.

96Ag Norcal Callsign - 12th Man Joined Jan 2003 Posts 22482 EE 100% (2) TX, USA	Posted: 11/28/2023 9:14:40 AM EDT [#27] How important is the nipple to nipple? I have 10x12 plates that seem to hit all the boxes as far as length etc. (need to double check) But I don't see upsizing to 11x14 really changing the N to N problem. I would think that my lungs would be similar in size to any adult males, even if the frame is wider. Thanks.
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Posted: 11/28/2023 3:40:41 PM EDT

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I would keep in mind that a lot of the theory in plate land is that it is overall acceptable to receive a penetrating gunshot wound to the kidneys, intestines, pelvic area...as the presumption is that you have immediate access to a trauma surgeon via Med Evac in the military system where golden hour is real and you have a platoon of guys to finish the fight and evacuate you to a higher level of care.

Those assumptions are not valid for a huge % of people. A GSW anywhere on the torso is a full on show stopper for the majority of the population and could easily result in death.

I would caution that the applicability of plates is relative to your mission, evacuation timelines, threats faced, and depth of your defensive forces in that they can take casualties and still remain functional. If those issues are different for you, maybe add protection.

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