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Posted: 7/27/2011 3:38:05 AM EDT
| Anyone here make a Ghillie Suit utilizing the colors of Multicam? If so, which colors did you use, and from what supplier? Also, what ratio of each color was applied to blend them? Pictures please, preferably ones taken with actual MultiCam gear for comparison. |
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Rock 71, Thank you for that in depth and detailed reply. I always love when I get notification of a reply to a post, and I get on to find an intelligent reply with the information I was seeking. Unfortunately, all too often I get pointless posts like yours, which offer nothing in the area of information, insight, or are in any way useful to the topic at hand.
But, yes....Seriously. My current green/brown ghilli suit creates too much contrast with my new multicam camo utilities. I really do not want to waste money on trail and error getting something that best blends with the multicam with minimal pattern deviation between the ghilli and the printed fabric. (nor do I want to waste the time, as I am already doing replying to you useless one word post) So, why not learn from those who may have already trial and errored? |
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a ghillie suit is environment specific. to match one to gear colorway instead of the foliage, natural materials and environment youll be working in does not make sense.
what is the reasoning behind this? I have never met someone who wanted to match their clothing to a ghillie if you are employing a ghillie, it should mask whatever clothing youre wearing... |
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a ghillie suit is environment specific. to match one to gear colorway instead of the foliage, natural materials and environment youll be working in does not make sense. If you've already determined that the colors in a particular camo pattern best blend into a particular environment, wouldnt it be logical to use those colors as a jumping off point for a Ghilli suit build? Quoted:
what is the reasoning behind this? I have never met someone who wanted to match their clothing to a ghillie if you are employing a ghillie, it should mask whatever clothing youre wearing... Because I dont want a full Ghilli, I want only the back side covered, and I want the front to blend into the back, and both to blend into the background as best as possible. For example, wearing a ghillie jacket that is mostly brown with a greenmarine digital camo front will create a contrast the sticks out in any environment. My ghillie is just for laying prone, but I want to blend as best I can even when not laying prone. |
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Rock 71, Thank you for that in depth and detailed reply. I always love when I get notification of a reply to a post, and I get on to find an intelligent reply with the information I was seeking. Unfortunately, all too often I get pointless posts like yours, which offer nothing in the area of information, insight, or are in any way useful to the topic at hand. But, yes....Seriously. My current green/brown ghilli suit creates too much contrast with my new multicam camo utilities. I really do not want to waste money on trail and error getting something that best blends with the multicam with minimal pattern deviation between the ghilli and the printed fabric. (nor do I want to waste the time, as I am already doing replying to you useless one word post) So, why not learn from those who may have already trial and errored? I started to type an "in depth and detailed response" but why? My reply should give you all of the answer youy need. Tell me, is this for work or play? |
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This is why I dread posting on this forum. 4 replies and no one tries to answer the question.
Forget I asked. I'll just buy something random, try it. If it doesnt work out well enough, I will throw it out, spend more money to buy more stuff, and again, hope for the best. You're right, that makes so much more sense. I'll do that instead. I am sorry I asked. |
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Always expect to get contrary answers ... Since I started with multicam in 2004 in all my dealings you were the first to ask about an MC ghillie
Now stand back and look at your original post... You gave no background, qualifiers reasoning or logic chain... Thus you got the answers that your post got. Dont want to trial and error... Guess what buttercup, that is exactly how it works, Dying jute, observing vegetation etc. my last ghillue I built... I dyed about 4.5 lbs of jute and burlap, and another 5 or 6lbs of natural color Using bdus that were inside out.. Buttons removed with heavy canvas reinforcement on forearms and legs Its not something you read about on the intarnetz... It is something while not exact science building ghillies requires timr, iterative practice and application Thicken up yo, its the internets dont get flustered.. Real life is a bit more damning 
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Multicam is a complex camo pattern designed using multiple colors in a both faded and edge contrasted pattern to try to create a visual illusion of depths and shadows along with colors which blend, or at least do not stand out too harshly, in most natural environments.
A Ghillie on the other hand, as a 3 dimensional surface, does not need that complexity of colors and pattern in order to be a functional camo - it's inherent in the nature of a Ghillie, that's why they are so effective. It's mostly a waste of time to go more than 2 or 3 colors on a Ghillie and even just one color can be surprisingly effective. The natural burlap color as a base along with a lighter shade of OD in the mix, maybe with a sprinkling of darker brown strips would probably emulate multicam reasonably well and be an effective camo. Then again Ghillies have been made in that color combo for a long, long time. That said, part of the beauty of the Ghillie is the ability to tailor the color mix to the environment, you're not limited to a pre-defined color/pattern. |
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Thank you, eggrolly and Gamma. It was not contradicting answers that annoy me. It is the trolls who ignore the fact that you are actually looking for an answer, and not criticsm of the question. I get it all the time on here, and it gets annoying. You ask "Is X compatible with Y?" and the first 20 responses are people telling you why Z is better than X, and Y isnt as tacticool as W, or why X is better without Y, meanwhile the actual question asked goes unanswered.
I suppose I should have just asked if anyone knew what predyed burlap best matches the colors in multicam, and how much of each to get to match the color ratio. |
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i dont mean to sound like a negative nancy but with multicam as popular as it is, there is a reason there isnt already a multicam ghillie.
2 different types of camo, multicam is made to camouflage in a 2 dimensional realm where as a ghillie is made to camouflage in a 3 dimensional realm. think about it, if someone where standing 10 feet from you, would they see you in a multicam ghille vs. a regular ghillie? |
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This is why I dread posting on this forum. 4 replies and no one tries to answer the question. Forget I asked. I'll just buy something random, try it. If it doesnt work out well enough, I will throw it out, spend more money to buy more stuff, and again, hope for the best. You're right, that makes so much more sense. I'll do that instead. I am sorry I asked. Hey guys, how do you guys stick a 6" knife in your thigh? Not a 4" knife or a machete, but a 6" knife. With the sharp part face towards you, or away from you? Maybe sideways? Pics would be greatly appreciated. Eggrolly answered the question. A Ghillie suit isn't built once. It's built to blend with very specific surroundings, and is rebuilt for every circumstantial deviation. Your question makes as much sense as my question to the people I hope will answer. Instead, the people who DO answer will be the ones who have done it before, and the results will be useless, as you can imagine. |
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a ghillie suit is environment specific. to match one to gear colorway instead of the foliage, natural materials and environment youll be working in does not make sense. what is the reasoning behind this? I have never met someone who wanted to match their clothing to a ghillie if you are employing a ghillie, it should mask whatever clothing youre wearing... Sage advice, right there... You tailor the color scheme to the area you intend to use the suit...and add bits of vegetation from the area to help blend even better. |
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I want only the back side covered, and I want the front to blend into the back, and both to blend into the background as best as possible. For example, wearing a ghillie jacket that is mostly brown with a greenmarine digital camo front will create a contrast the sticks out in any environment. My ghillie is just for laying prone, but I want to blend as best I can even when not laying prone. I thought you wanted multicam? Consider finding one of the old Desert Storm era night parkas, ghillie it up, and just carry it around with you while you're on your sniper missions. Put it on when needed, the rest of the time leave it in your pack. Or, check Cabelas; they've got lots of really neat looking ghillie suits. 
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Again it goes to what you are seeking to accomplish...
Are you breakin up your outline?or are you doing the stalk... The no-shit hours long slowpokey crawl? Rarely do premade storebought wallet holeburnin garments make the grade Find a 51 fishtail parka turn it inside out attach pieces of fishnet to the exterior.. I also attached a loose hood .. Use natural jute strands and tie to the fishnet.. Varying the hanging length.. Because nature is not uniform Then use your dyed jute as accents then use durt and veggies from you area to tailor accordingly. I get my supplies from tactical concealment |
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Thank you, eggrolly and Gamma. It was not contradicting answers that annoy me. It is the trolls who ignore the fact that you are actually looking for an answer, and not criticsm of the question. I get it all the time on here, and it gets annoying. You ask "Is X compatible with Y?" and the first 20 responses are people telling you why Z is better than X, and Y isnt as tacticool as W, or why X is better without Y, meanwhile the actual question asked goes unanswered. I suppose I should have just asked if anyone knew what predyed burlap best matches the colors in multicam, and how much of each to get to match the color ratio. Heck, I thought it was a troll question, my bad. Other posters have gone into more detail on why it is such a silly question. How was I to know? Here, hopefully this will keep you from whining and name calling. It's burlap, tied to a net, tied to a Multi-Cam base. I'm sorry I don't know the shade of burlap. My guess is that not many shooters would know the answer to that. 
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Your question makes as much sense as my question to the people I hope will answer. Worst case, thanks for beating a dead horse (and proving my point that guys on this forum often care less about answering a question than trying to prove that their opinions make them smarter than the asker. I have already admitted that it was STUPID of me to make a Ghillie out of colors which I have already found to blend well into an environment. However, thanks to those who did actually provide some good info, thank you. |
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Or, check Cabelas; they've got lots of really neat looking ghillie suits. <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/688/s793251750102.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/765/s793251750102.jpg</a> I have found that the cabelas Ghillies are more novelty than useful. The strands seem to be too short to effectively break up the common shape of a human being, (arms, legs, etc) |
| This was one place I found when I was shopping around. Link . Hope it helps. |
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Just dye your own jute and burlap. Synthetic threads and most colors of jute in kits are terribly unnatural even after good seasoning.
Tactical Concealment sells the good dyes, top notch materials, and nice modular and multicam bases (excellent boonie). Their Viper hood is very popular mil/le now to break up your outline without a full, maybe silly ghillie. Viper with a little garnish and backdrape with multicam http://www.militarymorons.com/misc/camo2.html#viper |
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