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Posted: 6/29/2011 9:43:37 AM EDT
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I'm not leaving for basic till Feb. but in the mean time I'm training any way i can and i was thinking.. Why not incorporate training with weighted vests and packs?
In order to effectively do that i need to know the average weight of a Marine Corps combat load, there are a lot of variables with that being it a patrol setup or raid setup or what have you. But what would a good weight be to relatively simulate it? I've seen 30lb training vests and thought that might be good to simulate the ammo and armor, and then i would also have a weighted pack. But i have no idea as to what weight would be a good simulator. |
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Yeah, the Corps will tell you NOT to train with weight. If you really want to start out way way small and work out. Last thing you want to do is get shin splints or something you cant really detect until you get to boot and then get put in MRP or PCP. That would equal suck.
Although its better than at ocs when they just send your ass home. |
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Are you trying to be an 03? If not then dont worry about combat loads lol
Everything depends on the mission, billet etc. I would say on average 70lbs. Also dont forget you will hump alot more than that granted you are an 03. Probably around 100+ for a forced march depending on your billet and MOS. If you are Weapons then prepare to hump .50 cal receivers, 240's and if you are Mortars.....well you get the idea... All of that training will condition you to be able to carry a full combat load without even thinking about it. Honestly, dont even worry about this BS right now. Focus on regular PT and actually graduating boot camp. When you go to SOI they will condition you for shit like this and once you hit the fleet they will so even more. |
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Are you trying to be an 03? If not then dont worry about combat loads lol Everything depends on the mission, billet etc. I would say on average 70lbs. Also dont forget you will hump alot more than that granted you are an 03. Probably around 100+ for a forced march depending on your billet and MOS. If you are Weapons then prepare to hump .50 cal receivers, 240's and if you are Mortars.....well you get the idea... All of that training will condition you to be able to carry a full combat load without even thinking about it. Honestly, dont even worry about this BS right now. Focus on regular PT and actually graduating boot camp. When you go to SOI they will condition you for shit like this and once you hit the fleet they will so even more. and the SMAW 
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Are you trying to be an 03? If not then dont worry about combat loads lol Everything depends on the mission, billet etc. I would say on average 70lbs. Also dont forget you will hump alot more than that granted you are an 03. Probably around 100+ for a forced march depending on your billet and MOS. If you are Weapons then prepare to hump .50 cal receivers, 240's and if you are Mortars.....well you get the idea... All of that training will condition you to be able to carry a full combat load without even thinking about it. Honestly, dont even worry about this BS right now. Focus on regular PT and actually graduating boot camp. When you go to SOI they will condition you for shit like this and once you hit the fleet they will so even more. and the SMAW 0351  Some good memories!!
It was said already, just work on your PT and lungs. Don't worry about weight right now, I'd hate to see you blow out a knee or ankle. |
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Are you trying to be an 03? If not then dont worry about combat loads lol Everything depends on the mission, billet etc. I would say on average 70lbs. Also dont forget you will hump alot more than that granted you are an 03. Probably around 100+ for a forced march depending on your billet and MOS. If you are Weapons then prepare to hump .50 cal receivers, 240's and if you are Mortars.....well you get the idea... All of that training will condition you to be able to carry a full combat load without even thinking about it. Honestly, dont even worry about this BS right now. Focus on regular PT and actually graduating boot camp. When you go to SOI they will condition you for shit like this and once you hit the fleet they will so even more. and the SMAW 0351 Some good memories!!
It was said already, just work on your PT and lungs. Don't worry about weight right now, I'd hate to see you blow out a knee or ankle. i have memories of finishing ruck marches with little circular bruises all over my legs....that bitch is the MOST awkward thing to hump EVER. |
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I trained quite a bit to get ready for boot camp. I was pleasantly surprised when I arrived in much better shape than any other recruit in my platoon. I didn't train with weight but I did do a lot of running on and off road. Pull ups are a must. If you can do 15-20 pull ups, you are ahead of most everyone. If you just do everything at bootcamp to the best of your ability, including your Incentive Training, boot camp will get you in fine shape. I seriously don't remember the weight of my pack being an issue on our hikes. I'm a west coast Marine so we have the hills to contend with. ITB was another story. I remember the hikes being a bitch because I just got wore out but it was nothing I couldn't finish. If your in decent shape when you go, you will be fine. In Afghanistan my kit was about 60-70 lbs depending on my water needs. If you arent going to be an 03, this weight wont matter. And now I wouldn't run with anything over 30 lbs (except for a TOW Missile) unless I was looking at MARSOC. Good luck man and don't kill your body trying to get ready. ETA: Good luck on getting the contract and I hope you don't come to LAR at 29palms |
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I trained quite a bit to get ready for boot camp. I was pleasantly surprised when I arrived in much better shape than any other recruit in my platoon. I didn't train with weight but I did do a lot of running on and off road. Pull ups are a must. If you can do 15-20 pull ups, you are ahead of most everyone. If you just do everything at bootcamp to the best of your ability, including your Incentive Training, boot camp will get you in fine shape. I seriously don't remember the weight of my pack being an issue on our hikes. I'm a west coast Marine so we have the hills to contend with. ITB was another story. I remember the hikes being a bitch because I just got wore out but it was nothing I couldn't finish. If your in decent shape when you go, you will be fine. In Afghanistan my kit was about 60-70 lbs depending on my water needs. If you arent going to be an 03, this weight wont matter. And now I wouldn't run with anything over 30 lbs (except for a TOW Missile) unless I was looking at MARSOC. Good luck man and don't kill your body trying to get ready. ETA: Good luck on getting the contract and I hope you don't come to LAR at 29palms 
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All you need to do is run. Work up to 4-5 miles a day. Once you can run your 5miles in sub 40min youll be fine, sub 35 and youll be far ahead of the next guy.
If you ruck dont go above 45lbs. and start off with just a 4 miler. So many people think you hvae to pack 70lbs and go 12 miles. You will break yousrelf. 2-3 rucks a month is enough. ETA: if you start the 4mile ruck and you get hot spots before you finish STOP and go home. You arent quitting you are being smart. If you fuck your feet up you wont be able to train. Your feet will get stronger with time. |
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Are you trying to be an 03? If not then dont worry about combat loads lol Everything depends on the mission, billet etc. I would say on average 70lbs. Also dont forget you will hump alot more than that granted you are an 03. Probably around 100+ for a forced march depending on your billet and MOS. If you are Weapons then prepare to hump .50 cal receivers, 240's and if you are Mortars.....well you get the idea... Haha, when I went to SOI and we made our wish lists, all the guys who weren't 0311s laughed and teased us about having to hump everywhere. When it came time to hump, the 31s carried .50s and Mk-19s, the 51s carried Dragons (I'm dating myself), 41s had to carry the 81s, and 52s had to carry the ground mount TOW launchers, including tripods and batteries. All we had to carry were rifles and the occasional SAW. |
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Physics and gravity are cruel bedmates, there is no getting around it
getting into good physical shape and mindset along with getting a thick skin would be the most important course of action. Know your limitations, train accordingly and step it up when appropriate |
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Physics and gravity are cruel bedmates, there is no getting around it getting into good physical shape and mindset along with getting a thick skin would be the most important course of action. Know your limitations, train accordingly and step it up when appropriate Funny you say that. I usually spend my humps thinking about how I could possibly bend those laws of physics to reduce the suck. By the time i figure out its useless were done. Problem solved. |
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