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5/3/2011 9:38:23 AM EDT
Not sure where to put this so I’ll put it here? If this would go better someplace else, feel free to move it or tell me where to post this?

I’m going on a cruise this summer and would like a small, waterproof backpack that we can use to put our electronics, passports etc. in. Most of our on-shore excurtions will involve water and I also see this as a useful item for canoeing or water parks later on. Hence the desire for something waterproof.

Now I know everybody seems to define "waterproof" differently. When I say "waterproof" I mean something that can be submerged to at least a few feet for at least a few minutes or can sit in a puddle of water for an extended period without any water entering the bag. The bag does not need to be “tactical” but I wouldn’t mind if it was. What I don’t want is something really “loud” or fruity looking if possible. Mostly I want something of good quality that will last (and work as advertised) without breaking the bank (under $100 preferably)

Size wise, I think something like County Comm’s SAT-COM bag would be perfect. Actually that bag would be perfect all around if it was just water tight. Any of you guys have any suggestions?
5/3/2011 9:42:13 AM EDT
[#1]
We used water proof insert bags in our rucks when I was on active duty.  I got one from a supplier and use it when I go camping.  Pack your ruck with the water proof insert, insert as much air into it as you can after it's packed and your bag will float.   Also freezer strength zip lock bags work like a charm for small items and as a back up to the insert.
5/3/2011 10:15:49 AM EDT
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We used water proof insert bags in our rucks

That may not be a bad option if I can't find what I'm looking for? The only downside I can think of off the top of my head is stuff in the waterproof bladder will not be quick to access but I don't think that will be a huge deal.

Any suggestions on brand of types of water proof inserts to look for?

5/3/2011 10:18:57 AM EDT
[#3]
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We used water proof insert bags in our rucks

That may not be a bad option if I can't find what I'm looking for? The only downside I can think of off the top of my head is stuff in the waterproof bladder will not be quick to access but I don't think that will be a huge deal.

Any suggestions on brand of types of water proof inserts to look for?



I've always just used a one gallon or two gallon zip lock for valuables. Worked fine for me while backpacking, kayaking, and on a cruise.

ETA: I think I've seen companies that make dry-bags with backpack straps sewn on, is that what you are looking for?
5/3/2011 11:10:24 AM EDT
[#4]
Years ago I went on a sea kayaking trip in Casco Bay ME. We used "dry bags" we put all of our gear in then put them in the kayak. They were extremely effective kept everything dry and would float if we tipped over. To me your not going to find a quality "waterproof" backpack for under $100. If they even make such a thing, I don't know.

I used bags made by a company called Sea to Summit, although there a several other manufacturers. They come in all different sizes that I'm sure one of them would fit your needs and allow you to place in a backpack.  I sympathize with your ease of access thoughts however remember to truly waterproof something it has to be sealed very well making quick access difficult. The two don't normally go hand in hand. I'll take a photo of what I have and post it if you would like.

Enjoy your trip

-Nate
5/3/2011 11:20:19 AM EDT
[#5]
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We used water proof insert bags in our rucks

That may not be a bad option if I can't find what I'm looking for? The only downside I can think of off the top of my head is stuff in the waterproof bladder will not be quick to access but I don't think that will be a huge deal.

Any suggestions on brand of types of water proof inserts to look for?



This is where I got mine

http://www.uscav.com/productinfo.aspx?productid=9451&tabid=548

When you get it, pull the whole thing over your head and look for pin holes.  If you find any either send back or repair as necessary.
5/3/2011 11:28:18 AM EDT
[#6]
get any decent backpack, then get some dry bags and small otter/pelican cases for electronics and items you need to stay dry.

you're going to be hard pressed to find anything "submersible" that is also convenient and easy to carry. take into consideration that most bags will float even loaded, especially in salt water. dry bags full of mostly air add to the buoyancy.

good luck!
5/3/2011 4:25:43 PM EDT
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We used water proof insert bags in our rucks

That may not be a bad option if I can't find what I'm looking for? The only downside I can think of off the top of my head is stuff in the waterproof bladder will not be quick to access but I don't think that will be a huge deal.

Any suggestions on brand of types of water proof inserts to look for?



This is where I got mine

http://www.uscav.com/productinfo.aspx?productid=9451&tabid=548

When you get it, pull the whole thing over your head and look for pin holes.  If you find any either send back or repair as necessary.


Exactly what he linked. Wet weather bag. If you're cheap, a thick plastic construction trashbag. Shove some heavy duty zip-lock bags in your main pack to store valuables, electronics, etc. in. Small pelican cases would work also as I believe they are waterproof. Unless you purchase a bag that is specifically made for kayaking or boating as one poster mentioned above, these are your best bets. You can make your bag water resistant, but unless it's airtight, water's going to get into it. Focus on keeping the insides dry, the bag's going to get wet regardless.
5/3/2011 6:30:09 PM EDT
[#8]
Granite Gear and Arc'teryx make them I know, and I am sure there are others.  Look outside the tacticool market for what you seek.
5/3/2011 9:37:45 PM EDT
[#9]

Heavy duty "Zip-Loc" type bags. Thick ones with beefy closures, not the lunchbag junk at the grocery store.
5/3/2011 9:46:01 PM EDT
[#10]
Keep in mind you don't have to put every item in the waterproof bag, just clothing and such.
5/4/2011 8:31:08 AM EDT
[#11]
Guys - thanks for the feedback. I have found some water proof bags (even tactical style) such as those made by a company called WaterShed but after thinking about what you all have said and evaluating my needs, I think you guys are right

I'm just going to find a day pack I like and use freezer style zip lock bag for most stuff and if I have something I'm really worried about, I can get a waterproof hard case or dry bag that will hold the item and still fit in the day pack. Thanks for the input.

So anybody have any ideas on a day pack? I was looking at Maxpeditions Sitka Gearslinger? Looks pretty sweet and would looks like it would be a good EDC bad but the price is a little steep. IMaybe I'll start another thread on this one?
5/4/2011 8:56:34 AM EDT
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Guys - thanks for the feedback. I have found some water proof bags (even tactical style) such as those made by a company called WaterShed but after thinking about what you all have said and evaluating my needs, I think you guys are right

I'm just going to find a day pack I like and use freezer style zip lock bag for most stuff and if I have something I'm really worried about, I can get a waterproof hard case or dry bag that will hold the item and still fit in the day pack. Thanks for the input.

So anybody have any ideas on a day pack? I was looking at Maxpeditions Sitka Gearslinger? Looks pretty sweet and would looks like it would be a good EDC bad but the price is a little steep. IMaybe I'll start another thread on this one?


Sounds like you are on the right track. As far as a day pack, I'm about to pick this Eagle A-III pack up because at that price it's a steal.

ETA: The Eagle pack is more of a 3 day pack rather than just a day pack so it might be bigger than what you want. My day pack right now is either a Kifaru Scout or a Mountain Hardware Scrambler pack.
5/4/2011 8:58:28 AM EDT
[#13]
Sealline by Cascade Designs, they have waterproof "dry bags" and make a few urban bags. Material is very tough, if you want it to last sealline is the way to go.SealLine Urban Bag They are a little bright in color but if drop it in the water it makes it easy to find, also comes in Black.  Keep air in the bag and it will float, depending on how much it weighs.

Sea to Summit makes a some great lightweight dry bags, the same as the sealline but thinner material. Sea to Summit

Pelican and Storm Dry Boxes. I'm sure you have a few. Hard cases that float, made in many sizes. Pelican



If you want a bag that is waterproof i'd get the SealLine, if your looking for something to put in a bag go for a drybag/liner/pelican case.
5/4/2011 1:24:31 PM EDT
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We used water proof insert bags in our rucks

That may not be a bad option if I can't find what I'm looking for? The only downside I can think of off the top of my head is stuff in the waterproof bladder will not be quick to access but I don't think that will be a huge deal.

Any suggestions on brand of types of water proof inserts to look for?



This is where I got mine

http://www.uscav.com/productinfo.aspx?productid=9451&tabid=548

When you get it, pull the whole thing over your head and look for pin holes.  If you find any either send back or repair as necessary.


Exactly what he linked. Wet weather bag. If you're cheap, a thick plastic construction trashbag. Shove some heavy duty zip-lock bags in your main pack to store valuables, electronics, etc. in. Small pelican cases would work also as I believe they are waterproof. Unless you purchase a bag that is specifically made for kayaking or boating as one poster mentioned above, these are your best bets. You can make your bag water resistant, but unless it's airtight, water's going to get into it. Focus on keeping the insides dry, the bag's going to get wet regardless.


This.  Most packs, unless specifically intended for boating are simply water-resistant, and it is next to impossible to make such a pack waterproof.  Use drybags, Pelican cases, and/or freezer-grade ziplock baggies (thicker) to organize and waterproof contents.  Have spares, and double-up in critical items.

If your electronics get dunked, I have heard that removing the battery and immediately swishing them in alcohol might save you.  Mebbe not, but at that point, there's nothing to lose.
5/4/2011 6:10:36 PM EDT
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Look into watershed bags if you insist on a drybag.  They are "ziploc" style drybags, hella durable, and quicker access than a traditional roll top bag.  Link below.













I thought those were the best bags on the market when I was balls deep in the kayaking world.




<eta> they also make shit in multicam too for you gotta have everything multicam whack jobs

 
5/4/2011 8:58:16 PM EDT
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If your electronics get dunked, I have heard that removing the battery and immediately swishing them in alcohol might save you.  Mebbe not, but at that point, there's nothing to lose.


You can also stick small items in ziploc bags of dry uncooked rice.  Sucks the moisture out and, as you say, nothing to lose.
5/5/2011 6:58:34 AM EDT
[#17]
Outdoor Research Back Sack  This might be of interest to you.
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