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Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez: Against the advice above from croak(sorry man) .I'm really leaning hard towards the JPC 2.0 Anyone use the first spear 3 band tube cummerbund from mostactical on the JPC, if so, how is it? Is any sewing modification necessary? Is there a better way to attach tubes to the JPC? DefenderAO, your setup looks awesome, can you post up a rundown? Going back I've seen you name some of the gear. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By HappyCamel: @bending_rodriguez I looked at that route but decided just to upgrade to a tube ready carrier. I have a Spiritus with the 3 band tubes, if you're ever around FF county you're welcome to try it on View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By HappyCamel: Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez: Against the advice above from croak(sorry man) .I'm really leaning hard towards the JPC 2.0 Anyone use the first spear 3 band tube cummerbund from mostactical on the JPC, if so, how is it? Is any sewing modification necessary? Is there a better way to attach tubes to the JPC? DefenderAO, your setup looks awesome, can you post up a rundown? Going back I've seen you name some of the gear. I have the JPC 1 with the tube kit adapter, absolutely love it. The adapter kit can be stitched, or the flap can be folded over. Right now mine is folded over. |
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Thank you for your response. I am going to give them a shot at this price. After working with them I will see if I want something different.
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Are there any good carriers out on the market that take 8x10 plates? or even smaller plates like 6x8 or 6x6?
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Originally Posted By HappyCamel: @bending_rodriguez I looked at that route but decided just to upgrade to a tube ready carrier. I have a Spiritus with the 3 band tubes, if you're ever around FF county you're welcome to try it on View Quote Thanks for the offer Camel! I ended up going with the JPC 2.0 and the MOStac/first spear tubes cummerbund. |
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Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Playing around with new ideas https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/470854/20230425_172533_jpg-2795860.JPG View Quote I'm assuming you did some jumping jacks with that? |
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Raven on AI passing MBA exams:
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Originally Posted By stoner01: I'm assuming you did some jumping jacks with that? View Quote Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Even if it works I dislike it. View Quote Yes I did. Ran, jumped, actually did a cartwheel. The unobtainium pouches have good retention. The picture is flipped. It's actually on my strong side. I've been playing with strong side reloads and it's actually really easy to do since the mag is out of the way of slings/gear/the gun |
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Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Yes I did. Ran, jumped, actually did a cartwheel. The unobtainium pouches have good retention. The picture is flipped. It's actually on my strong side. I've been playing with strong side reloads and it's actually really easy to do since the mag is out of the way of slings/gear/the gun View Quote What is the theory behind strong side reloads? Im not tier one by any means... but that seems counterintuitive to me to take your strong hand away from the controls to grab a reload. What am I missing? |
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Originally Posted By mediumdaddy: What is the theory behind strong side reloads? Im not tier one by any means... but that seems counterintuitive to me to take your strong hand away from the controls to grab a reload. What am I missing? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mediumdaddy: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Yes I did. Ran, jumped, actually did a cartwheel. The unobtainium pouches have good retention. The picture is flipped. It's actually on my strong side. I've been playing with strong side reloads and it's actually really easy to do since the mag is out of the way of slings/gear/the gun What is the theory behind strong side reloads? Im not tier one by any means... but that seems counterintuitive to me to take your strong hand away from the controls to grab a reload. What am I missing? I like strong side reloads for shooting prone |
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Originally Posted By mediumdaddy: What is the theory behind strong side reloads? Im not tier one by any means... but that seems counterintuitive to me to take your strong hand away from the controls to grab a reload. What am I missing? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mediumdaddy: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Yes I did. Ran, jumped, actually did a cartwheel. The unobtainium pouches have good retention. The picture is flipped. It's actually on my strong side. I've been playing with strong side reloads and it's actually really easy to do since the mag is out of the way of slings/gear/the gun What is the theory behind strong side reloads? Im not tier one by any means... but that seems counterintuitive to me to take your strong hand away from the controls to grab a reload. What am I missing? Fighting from different positions. Spreading the load around for weight distribution Using the unused space Not every reload is a speed reload Working malfunctions that require the strong side to clear anyway There are certain positions I can actually stay behind the sights if I use my support hand to handle the gun while my strong hand reloads. It's helpful when tracking/processing the environment using magnification so you don't have to "search" for the target after. There's not one answer. |
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Originally Posted By 03RN: I like strong side reloads for shooting prone View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 03RN: Originally Posted By mediumdaddy: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Yes I did. Ran, jumped, actually did a cartwheel. The unobtainium pouches have good retention. The picture is flipped. It's actually on my strong side. I've been playing with strong side reloads and it's actually really easy to do since the mag is out of the way of slings/gear/the gun What is the theory behind strong side reloads? Im not tier one by any means... but that seems counterintuitive to me to take your strong hand away from the controls to grab a reload. What am I missing? I like strong side reloads for shooting prone This man gets it |
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Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Playing around with new ideas https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/470854/20230425_172533_jpg-2795860.JPG View Quote Nice Equinox Cummerbund. Really like mine, think it's a must have honestly. |
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Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Fighting from different positions. Spreading the load around for weight distribution Using the unused space Not every reload is a speed reload Working malfunctions that require the strong side to clear anyway There are certain positions I can actually stay behind the sights if I use my support hand to handle the gun while my strong hand reloads. It's helpful when tracking/processing the environment using magnification so you don't have to "search" for the target after. There's not one answer. View Quote just to preface this - im not trying to be a jerk or an elitist or anything at all. Im trying to learn. I dont disagree with of this, except I will argue that in my opinion if im only going to have one hand remain on the weapon, it makes more sense to me in every scenario to have it be the strong hand. Also to speak for prone reloads... how often do you see this being necessary? |
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Originally Posted By mediumdaddy: just to preface this - im not trying to be a jerk or an elitist or anything at all. Im trying to learn. I dont disagree with of this, except I will argue that in my opinion if im only going to have one hand remain on the weapon, it makes more sense to me in every scenario to have it be the strong hand. Also to speak for prone reloads... how often do you see this being necessary? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mediumdaddy: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Fighting from different positions. Spreading the load around for weight distribution Using the unused space Not every reload is a speed reload Working malfunctions that require the strong side to clear anyway There are certain positions I can actually stay behind the sights if I use my support hand to handle the gun while my strong hand reloads. It's helpful when tracking/processing the environment using magnification so you don't have to "search" for the target after. There's not one answer. just to preface this - im not trying to be a jerk or an elitist or anything at all. Im trying to learn. I dont disagree with of this, except I will argue that in my opinion if im only going to have one hand remain on the weapon, it makes more sense to me in every scenario to have it be the strong hand. Also to speak for prone reloads... how often do you see this being necessary? Not taking it like you're being a jerk so no need to worry about that. Your stance is exactly the problem when people only equate easy, static range splits to crossing over into combat/gunfighting. Do you know what bumping mags is? Do you know the difference between tactical and combat reloads are? Maybe I just finished a drill with my pistol. So I am going to holster the side arm and at the same time bring my rifle up with my support hand. My strong hand will be reaching for a mag since it's already at my side. The larger picture is, if I need to reload from strong side, what is the easiest way to do it while stating organized? As for prone reloads, maybe not that much at all. But if I need to it is crazy easy to do with the strong hand with the mag oriented as such. Maybe I end up hating the setup. That's the point of trying things |
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Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Not taking it like you're being a jerk so no need to worry about that. Your stance is exactly the problem when people only equate easy, static range splits to crossing over into combat/gunfighting. Do you know what bumping mags is? Do you know the difference between tactical and combat reloads are? Maybe I just finished a drill with my pistol. So I am going to holster the side arm and at the same time bring my rifle up with my support hand. My strong hand will be reaching for a mag since it's already at my side. The larger picture is, if I need to reload from strong side, what is the easiest way to do it while stating organized? As for prone reloads, maybe not that much at all. But if I need to it is crazy easy to do with the strong hand with the mag oriented as such. Maybe I end up hating the setup. That's the point of trying things View Quote Yes to both of your questions. I personally still use my support hand for both of those types of reloads. The weapon transition piece of this is not something I had considered for a practical or drill standpoint. The prone reload on strong side doesnt make sense to me still... but ill put a pin in that until i can try it out after work. Thanks for your responses! |
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Originally Posted By mediumdaddy: Yes to both of your questions. I personally still use my support hand for both of those types of reloads. The weapon transition piece of this is not something I had considered for a practical or drill standpoint. The prone reload on strong side doesnt make sense to me still... but ill put a pin in that until i can try it out after work. Thanks for your responses! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mediumdaddy: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Not taking it like you're being a jerk so no need to worry about that. Your stance is exactly the problem when people only equate easy, static range splits to crossing over into combat/gunfighting. Do you know what bumping mags is? Do you know the difference between tactical and combat reloads are? Maybe I just finished a drill with my pistol. So I am going to holster the side arm and at the same time bring my rifle up with my support hand. My strong hand will be reaching for a mag since it's already at my side. The larger picture is, if I need to reload from strong side, what is the easiest way to do it while stating organized? As for prone reloads, maybe not that much at all. But if I need to it is crazy easy to do with the strong hand with the mag oriented as such. Maybe I end up hating the setup. That's the point of trying things Yes to both of your questions. I personally still use my support hand for both of those types of reloads. The weapon transition piece of this is not something I had considered for a practical or drill standpoint. The prone reload on strong side doesnt make sense to me still... but ill put a pin in that until i can try it out after work. Thanks for your responses! If you've noticed, I still have a bunch of mags where I need them for support hand reloads. From a fighting standpoint, you should be able to conduct reloads, medical, and any other responsive tasks with both hands. That tends to get lost in translation for those that haven't had to do things in real life |
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Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: If you've noticed, I still have a bunch of mags where I need them for support hand reloads. From a fighting standpoint, you should be able to conduct reloads, medical, and any other responsive tasks with both hands. That tends to get lost in translation for those that haven't had to do things in real life View Quote Also agree with those points. |
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I keep BFG ten speeds on either side of the cummerbund for the reasons articulated above. There could be a time where you don't have ideal access to your weak side (prone, up against cover that you'd rather not budge from, drivers side of a car for a righty, etc). Mag pouches are small, light, and unobtrusive. I don't mind using those to take up space and provide options.
Attached File I do think there's a happy medium when it comes to keeping weight manageable vs using every spare inch of molle available. But that's why we try stuff out. |
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Originally Posted By 135Patriots: I keep BFG ten speeds on either side of the cummerbund for the reasons articulated above. There could be a time where you don't have ideal access to your weak side (prone, up against cover that you'd rather not budge from, drivers side of a car for a righty, etc). Mag pouches are small, light, and unobtrusive. I don't mind using those to take up space and provide options. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/487230/20230219_152002_jpg-2797228.JPG I do think there's a happy medium when it comes to keeping weight manageable vs using every spare inch of molle available. But that's why we try stuff out. View Quote Really nice set up |
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This is tech, I'm not being combative.
It is my understanding that in either a military or civilian setting you will be given O- blood which makes such a patch completely unnecessary. Is this an accurate assessment? |
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Raven on AI passing MBA exams:
Originally Posted By raven: Now it's off to ruin legacy companies it didn't build. |
Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: This is tech, I'm not being combative. It is my understanding that in either a military or civilian setting you will be given O- blood which makes such a patch completely unnecessary. Is this an accurate assessment? View Quote No idea! I hope I never find out. Having said that, more information is better than less information, and if there's ever a position where I need blood (or someone else needs blood and I can donate) and supplies are low, better to have that information out there and available up front. |
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: This is tech, I'm not being combative. It is my understanding that in either a military or civilian setting you will be given O- blood which makes such a patch completely unnecessary. Is this an accurate assessment? View Quote Yes. And that patch will be removed (along with everything else) in pre-hospital care. That's why you write it on your boot |
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Originally Posted By stoner01: Yes. And that patch will be removed (along with everything else) in pre-hospital care. That's why you write it on your boot View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By stoner01: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: This is tech, I'm not being combative. It is my understanding that in either a military or civilian setting you will be given O- blood which makes such a patch completely unnecessary. Is this an accurate assessment? Yes. And that patch will be removed (along with everything else) in pre-hospital care. That's why you write it on your boot That's smart, all Delta do that. |
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Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Today I had an idea https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/470854/signal-2023-05-04-14-21-08-742_jpg-2805736.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/470854/signal-2023-05-04-13-47-37-296_jpg-2805737.JPG View Quote Care to explain 🤔 |
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Originally Posted By stoner01: Care to explain 🤔 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By stoner01: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Today I had an idea https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/470854/signal-2023-05-04-14-21-08-742_jpg-2805736.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/470854/signal-2023-05-04-13-47-37-296_jpg-2805737.JPG Care to explain 🤔 So the whole self accessible back panel Attached File Attached File Attached File I'm making one out of a qore iceplate/pouch I'm not a fan of how they attach at the shoulders, though the first spear one isn't bad. I don't like all those buckles where my stock goes. Still a work in progress |
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: This is tech, I'm not being combative. It is my understanding that in either a military or civilian setting you will be given O- blood which makes such a patch completely unnecessary. Is this an accurate assessment? View Quote 100% accurate assessment Knowing your blood type is always good, but the patch won’t mean a thing to anyone taking care of you. Like another poster said your gear will at best be piled up in a corner of the room but you’ll be coming in “trauma naked”. Blood products go through some of the most stringent checks prior to administration because of the severe consequences of using the wrong type. In an emergent setting you’ll get O-, plasma, or packed RBC’s etc and they’ll do a type and cross to determine blood type and confirm what you actually need. |
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Originally Posted By stoner01: Yes. And that patch will be removed (along with everything else) in pre-hospital care. That's why you write it on your boot View Quote The flight medics I know have said that the last thing they’re gonna do when blood transfusion is needed is trust some random dudes patch. However I wouldn’t trust dog tags either - I got to play with it one day and I was willing to put anything on those suckers lol |
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Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: So the whole self accessible back panel https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/470854/Screenshot_20230504-114809_Chrome_jpg-2805783.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/470854/Screenshot_20230504-114818_Chrome_jpg-2805785.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/470854/Screenshot_20230504-114902_Instagram_jpg-2805786.JPG I'm making one out of a qore iceplate/pouch I'm not a fan of how they attach at the shoulders, though the first spear one isn't bad. I don't like all those buckles where my stock goes. Still a work in progress View Quote I saw this the other day and was intrigued. The waist strap could be better but maybe that can be modded out with a dangler, etc. Setting up the JAC Pack: DETACHABLE configuration |
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Same concept. I'm trying to make just about any molle rear "pack" into these
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Since the iceplate carrier is double sided molle it gives me a lot of ways to play with it. And the iceplate itself being a hard bladder gives it structure/rigidity. A few "DIY" pieces and I'll be good to go. Trying to decide what I should actually mount internally right now
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Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Today I had an idea https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/470854/signal-2023-05-04-14-21-08-742_jpg-2805736.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/470854/signal-2023-05-04-13-47-37-296_jpg-2805737.JPG View Quote Can you tell Qore they need to make larger sized carriers please? |
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So just upgraded from a Grey Ghost Minimalist to a K19, and wow what a difference. New to Plackards. Think I will go with the Agelite for AR mags but anyone have a good source for AK mags?
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Self accessible pack panel... Attached File
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Found the answers.
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Question for y’all on sizing, I took my measurements based on a Google on how to do that, and my size seems to fall between a Medium and a Large. My chest is larger and I measure for a large in width but I have a shorter torso and measure for a medium in length. But I also got confused on some of the info out there, some say measure to the belly button and subtract 3-4 inches. Some say measure to the belly button and only subtract 1 inch. If I go by the 1 inch rule, then I for sure need a large plate, but by the 3-4 inch rule I would need a medium. I’m going with the Crye SPC and their website says if you fall between sizes, size up. By that info, I need a large? I’ve been thinking large is what I need but looking for guidance/validation on that?
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Originally Posted By BrentB17: Question for y’all on sizing, I took my measurements based on a Google on how to do that, and my size seems to fall between a Medium and a Large. My chest is larger and I measure for a large in width but I have a shorter torso and measure for a medium in length. But I also got confused on some of the info out there, some say measure to the belly button and subtract 3-4 inches. Some say measure to the belly button and only subtract 1 inch. If I go by the 1 inch rule, then I for sure need a large plate, but by the 3-4 inch rule I would need a medium. I’m going with the Crye SPC and their website says if you fall between sizes, size up. By that info, I need a large? I’ve been thinking large is what I need but looking for guidance/validation on that? View Quote Balance between coverage and mobility. Going with medium allows you to balance those. I'm a manlet and went medium because common parts and such. |
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I'm short and thick too. I went with a medium JPC 1, it fits but is as small as it can go. Wish I could have tried a small.
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Originally Posted By BrentB17: Question for y’all on sizing, I took my measurements based on a Google on how to do that, and my size seems to fall between a Medium and a Large. My chest is larger and I measure for a large in width but I have a shorter torso and measure for a medium in length. But I also got confused on some of the info out there, some say measure to the belly button and subtract 3-4 inches. Some say measure to the belly button and only subtract 1 inch. If I go by the 1 inch rule, then I for sure need a large plate, but by the 3-4 inch rule I would need a medium. I’m going with the Crye SPC and their website says if you fall between sizes, size up. By that info, I need a large? I’ve been thinking large is what I need but looking for guidance/validation on that? View Quote Are you using a belt? Medium. Are you using a pc only? Dealers choice. |
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Originally Posted By sp1shooter: I'm short and thick too. I went with a medium JPC 1, it fits but is as small as it can go. Wish I could have tried a small. View Quote I’m 6’1” and 210 pounds and my legs grow out of my neck so that’s where I get hung up. Following all of these charts on the internet it says I’d be in a large but I just have super long legs and a shorter torso. |
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Originally Posted By BrentB17: I’m 6’1” and 210 pounds and my legs grow out of my neck so that’s where I get hung up. Following all of these charts on the internet it says I’d be in a large but I just have super long legs and a shorter torso. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BrentB17: Originally Posted By sp1shooter: I'm short and thick too. I went with a medium JPC 1, it fits but is as small as it can go. Wish I could have tried a small. I’m 6’1” and 210 pounds and my legs grow out of my neck so that’s where I get hung up. Following all of these charts on the internet it says I’d be in a large but I just have super long legs and a shorter torso. Me as well. I wear a medium. |
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