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Posted: 11/28/2020 1:56:28 PM EDT
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May as well ask here instead of the gear porn thread
 Does anyone regret buying the daedon instead of the daedon a.s.s.? I broke down and ordered one yesterday because I really like the idea of having a decent cummerbund. I've been using a GGG minimalist and it doesn't have one at all. |
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Posted: 11/28/2020 1:58:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BUCKSTALKER: May as well ask here instead of the gear porn thread Does anyone regret buying the daedon instead of the daedon a.s.s.? I broke down and ordered one yesterday because I really like the idea of having a decent cummerbund. I've been using a GGG minimalist and it doesn't have one at all. I bought mine when both were in stock and prefer the Daeodon. No regrets |
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Posted: 11/28/2020 2:20:21 PM EDT
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I have the ASS bc it was in stock. I have a friend that swears by the daeodon but with cobra belts instead of cumberbund. I knew I was giving up the ability to attach hydration to the back. I’m no operator, but if I’m leaving out, I’ll have a bag on my back with hydration, if I’m fighting, I probably won’t last long enough to need water.
I could see the convenience of water on the pc for training days and such. |
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Posted: 11/28/2020 4:46:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: laxman09]
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Getting ready for my first night shoot next weekend. PC and helmet squared away.
 Attached FileJPC 2.0 w/ Saber Solutions Tubes cummerbund adapters Spiritus Systems Micro Fight Midwest Armor Venture FM STX (rebranded Tencates from Feb 2020 group buy) GGG Dangler TW Exfil Bump Helmet Agilite Cover Photonis ECHO PVS14 WP ModArmory Dovetail J Arm Unity Tactical MARK w/ HL Ear Pro NodPod Paracord Tether
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Posted: 11/28/2020 5:46:39 PM EDT
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I don't see many people running an admin pouch high center. Just an excuse to carry more crap (weight)?
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Posted: 11/28/2020 5:59:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTRider245: I don't see many people running an admin pouch high center. Just an excuse to carry more crap (weight)? |
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Posted: 11/28/2020 6:17:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By laxman09: Getting ready for my first night shoot next weekend. PC and helmet squared away. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/450791/PXL_20201128_202202176_2_jpg-1705892.JPG JPC 2.0 w/ Saber Solutions Tubes cummerbund adapters Spiritus Systems Micro Fight Midwest Armor Venture FM STX (rebranded Tencates from Feb 2020 group buy) GGG Dangler TW Exfil Bump Helmet Agilite Cover Photonis ECHO PVS14 WP ModArmory Dovetail J Arm Unity Tactical MARK w/ HL Ear Pro NodPod Paracord Tether I got HLs on the MARK as well. Haven't played around with them much since it's been to burny to shoot outdoors. What's the trick to getting them to flip back? |
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Posted: 11/28/2020 6:19:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTRider245: I don't see many people running an admin pouch high center. Just an excuse to carry more crap (weight)? Since I'm no longer active duty, I stopped doing that. Although I may pick one up from FERRO to put my phone in while I'm working out in my PC. Otherwise, yeah, just another spot to put things |
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Posted: 11/28/2020 6:27:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: Since I'm no longer active duty, I stopped doing that. Although I may pick one up from FERRO to put my phone in while I'm working out in my PC. Otherwise, yeah, just another spot to put things I also figured it would be a good place for my phone and small stuff that won't need to be in an IFAK (I carry eyewash and lip balm everywhere). |
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Posted: 11/28/2020 6:27:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTRider245: I don't see many people running an admin pouch high center. Just an excuse to carry more crap (weight)? Not necessarily. People tend to build things backwards though-as in they buy "cool gear" but have no use for it. Ex-don't buy a B.O.B. then figure out what put in it. Lay out your gear and select your bag based off that. The PC is no different. My current admin pouch carries: Batteries Pens Markers Chemlights The tuning and disassembly wrench for my piston Cloth for scope lens Small multitool Small monocular (that may not stay) Laminated cheat cards-ex:kill card, emergency phone numbers, grid coordinates, local edible plants, quick reference medical cards. Its a horizontal pouch that sits strong side forward on cummerbund.  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 11/28/2020 6:48:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTRider245: I also figured it would be a good place for my phone and small stuff that won't need to be in an IFAK (I carry eyewash and lip balm everywhere). I got a microbat systems candy micro for that |
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Posted: 11/28/2020 7:49:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: I got HLs on the MARK as well. Haven't played around with them much since it's been to burny to shoot outdoors. What's the trick to getting them to flip back? They should rotate freely on the MARK |
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Posted: 11/28/2020 7:57:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By laxman09: They should rotate freely on the MARK Things I'm going to have to play with later |
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Posted: 11/28/2020 8:45:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTRider245: I don't see many people running an admin pouch high center. Just an excuse to carry more crap (weight)? Gets in the way of a smooth mag draw with low-pro mag pouches, and, in my case, having the admin pouch on my belt is more useful, as I will almost always be taking my belt out wherever I go. Not so with the PC. |
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Posted: 11/28/2020 9:32:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Anastasios]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By armoredman: I live on Skid Row with felons and vagabonds, not likely to form a fire team. Drinking team, hell yes, but fire team? They wouldn't understand the question. I am most likely to be on my own until we can bug our, IF we can. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By armoredman: Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: All that won't do you much good if you don't train in tactics, communication, and logistics with at least a I hate spell check. I live on Skid Row with felons and vagabonds, not likely to form a fire team. Drinking team, hell yes, but fire team? They wouldn't understand the question. I am most likely to be on my own until we can bug our, IF we can. Those are the kinds of people you should look for, they sound like Marines! |
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Posted: 11/29/2020 12:43:55 PM EDT
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Do you guys train in ceramic plates or are they too delicate? Thanks
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Posted: 11/29/2020 12:53:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Caniac_Nation: Do you guys train in ceramic plates or are they too delicate? Thanks I don't train in them per se but I definitely shoot two gun matches with a plate carrier |
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Posted: 11/29/2020 1:16:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: I don't train in them per se but I definitely shoot two gun matches with a plate carrier Thanks. My question is more about ceramic vs steel and durability I guess. I can see the value of doing matches in a carrier but if classes and training have you going from standing to prone, etc I wouldn’t want to crack or break plates by dropping down. Bulletproofme.com has a good deal on a London carrier if you buy their plates..but they’re ceramic. I had pretty much decided on steel, given price and durability but the deal has me pondering ceramic. |
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Posted: 11/29/2020 1:18:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Caniac_Nation: Thanks. My question is more about ceramic vs steel and durability I guess. I can see the value of doing matches in a carrier but if classes and training have you going from standing to prone, etc I wouldn’t want to crack or break plates by dropping down. Bulletproofme.com has a good deal on a London carrier if you buy their plates..but they’re ceramic. I had pretty much decided on steel, given price and durability but the deal has me pondering ceramic. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Caniac_Nation: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: I don't train in them per se but I definitely shoot two gun matches with a plate carrier Thanks. My question is more about ceramic vs steel and durability I guess. I can see the value of doing matches in a carrier but if classes and training have you going from standing to prone, etc I wouldn’t want to crack or break plates by dropping down. Bulletproofme.com has a good deal on a London carrier if you buy their plates..but they’re ceramic. I had pretty much decided on steel, given price and durability but the deal has me pondering ceramic. We've been fighting wars with them for years. As long as you don't toss them down the stairs for fun you should be fine. |
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Posted: 11/29/2020 1:24:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Caniac_Nation: Thanks. My question is more about ceramic vs steel and durability I guess. I can see the value of doing matches in a carrier but if classes and training have you going from standing to prone, etc I wouldn't want to crack or break plates by dropping down. Bulletproofme.com has a good deal on a London carrier if you buy their plates..but they're ceramic. I had pretty much decided on steel, given price and durability but the deal has me pondering ceramic. Steel sucks to use, so the people who sell steel have found ways to market it to distract from that fact. They talk about ceramic having a "shelf life" and being "fragile", both of which are bullshit, particularly for an individual normal guy who will be storing his equipment properly. |
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Posted: 11/29/2020 1:32:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Caniac_Nation: Do you guys train in ceramic plates or are they too delicate? Thanks They're made to stop bullets, they aren't fragile. I would guess that anything you do while wearing them is fine unless you also get hurt. When you're not wearing them avoid throwing the plates off roof tops or driving over them. |
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Posted: 11/29/2020 1:44:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Doodles]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Caniac_Nation: Do you guys train in ceramic plates or are they too delicate? Thanks Plates are drop tested and x-rayed as part of the certification process. I believe they are dropped from 6 feet twice onto concrete then evaluated. If soldiers can fight in them they are plenty tough. |
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Posted: 11/29/2020 2:18:24 PM EDT
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The only time I dont use my lvl4s is when I purposely want to add more weight. Otherwise train like you plan to fight.
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Posted: 11/29/2020 5:47:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Doodles: Plates are drop tested and x-rayed as part of the certification process. I believe they are dropped from 6 feet twice onto concrete then evaluated. If soldiers can fight in them they are plenty tough. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Doodles: Originally Posted By Caniac_Nation: Do you guys train in ceramic plates or are they too delicate? Thanks Plates are drop tested and x-rayed as part of the certification process. I believe they are dropped from 6 feet twice onto concrete then evaluated. If soldiers can fight in them they are plenty tough. My plates were in a duffle after getting issued and someone knocked my bag off the step while getting out and it split one of my plates. Granted, this was 10 years ago and it probably landed perfectly on a corner. |
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Posted: 11/29/2020 7:04:40 PM EDT
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No one is even going to make fun of my knife?
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Posted: 11/29/2020 7:36:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: My plates were in a duffle after getting issued and someone knocked my bag off the step while getting out and it split one of my plates. Granted, this was 10 years ago and it probably landed perfectly on a corner. Well then, mostly soldier proof. Uffff that would suck. Hopefully Uncle Sam replaced it. Landing on the corner can't be good. |
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Posted: 11/29/2020 7:45:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Doodles: Well then, mostly soldier proof. Uffff that would suck. Hopefully Uncle Sam replaced it. Landing on the corner can't be good. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Doodles: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: My plates were in a duffle after getting issued and someone knocked my bag off the step while getting out and it split one of my plates. Granted, this was 10 years ago and it probably landed perfectly on a corner. Well then, mostly soldier proof. Uffff that would suck. Hopefully Uncle Sam replaced it. Landing on the corner can't be good. It was such a pain in the ass to get it replaced. No one believed me and every time I flexed it to make it make the crunchy sounds, it got worse. By the time I got approved to go back to RFI and get a new one, it was delam'd across about half of the plate. Then we get to Manas (jump-off point before heading into Afg) and we find out there was a recall on our plates and had to have them inspected and swapped out.
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Posted: 11/29/2020 7:54:01 PM EDT
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Plate carrier (and more) as it stands right now.
Crye JPC 2.0 -First Spear tubes sewn in by Down Range Gear -cummerbund is attached by WTF straps and homemade loop keepers instead of bungees Crye MOLLE front flap with Esstac triple KYWI panel Juggernaut phone case and mount with Galaxy S6 running ATAK-CIV USGI IFAK at 7 o'clock  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/29/2020 7:56:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Caniac_Nation: Do you guys train in ceramic plates or are they too delicate? Thanks Train as you fight, fight as you train. Pretty simple concept. |
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Posted: 11/29/2020 8:07:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: It was such a pain in the ass to get it replaced. No one believed me and every time I flexed it to make it make the crunchy sounds, it got worse. By the time I got approved to go back to RFI and get a new one, it was delam'd across about half of the plate. Then we get to Manas (jump-off point before heading into Afg) and we find out there was a recall on our plates and had to have them inspected and swapped out. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Originally Posted By Doodles: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: My plates were in a duffle after getting issued and someone knocked my bag off the step while getting out and it split one of my plates. Granted, this was 10 years ago and it probably landed perfectly on a corner. Well then, mostly soldier proof. Uffff that would suck. Hopefully Uncle Sam replaced it. Landing on the corner can't be good. It was such a pain in the ass to get it replaced. No one believed me and every time I flexed it to make it make the crunchy sounds, it got worse. By the time I got approved to go back to RFI and get a new one, it was delam'd across about half of the plate. Then we get to Manas (jump-off point before heading into Afg) and we find out there was a recall on our plates and had to have them inspected and swapped out. Did you ever get the feeling our military might be trying to kill you? |
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Posted: 11/29/2020 8:20:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: Did you ever get the feeling our military might be trying to kill you? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Originally Posted By Doodles: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: My plates were in a duffle after getting issued and someone knocked my bag off the step while getting out and it split one of my plates. Granted, this was 10 years ago and it probably landed perfectly on a corner. Well then, mostly soldier proof. Uffff that would suck. Hopefully Uncle Sam replaced it. Landing on the corner can't be good. It was such a pain in the ass to get it replaced. No one believed me and every time I flexed it to make it make the crunchy sounds, it got worse. By the time I got approved to go back to RFI and get a new one, it was delam'd across about half of the plate. Then we get to Manas (jump-off point before heading into Afg) and we find out there was a recall on our plates and had to have them inspected and swapped out. Did you ever get the feeling our military might be trying to kill you? No, never.
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Posted: 11/29/2020 8:31:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Advance]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sonoran_Tj: Plate carrier (and more) as it stands right now. Crye JPC 2.0 -First Spear tubes sewn in by Down Range Gear -cummerbund is attached by WTF straps and homemade loop keepers instead of bungees Crye MOLLE front flap with Esstac triple KYWI panel Juggernaut phone case and mount with Galaxy S6 running ATAK-CIV USGI IFAK at 7 o'clock https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/276110/Layout_2020-11_resized_jpg-1707392.JPG Nice! All I would add is a small admin pouch on the cummerbund for CR123 batteries, multi-tool, small flashlight, a few zip ties, small roll of tape, small note pad, Sharpie, pen, ear pro, torx driver, CR2032, and a protein bar. Speaking of ear pro... I think it would be a good idea to (at the minimum) have a set of $30 electronic earmuffs permanently assigned to your PC/war belt combo. I’d also add a small padded pouch for NODs so you don’t bang them up during day time. If you go hot in a mass unrest incident, your ears are going to be ringing like you’ve never imagined. Today’s tech allows us to protect our hearing from gun fights while at the same time being able to hear normal conversations. Edit: Saw the dog tags under your avatar so you already know all of the above. |
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Posted: 11/29/2020 9:07:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: Nice! All I would add is a small admin pouch on the cummerbund for CR123 batteries, multi-tool, small flashlight, a few zip ties, small roll of tape, small note pad, Sharpie, pen, ear pro, torx driver, CR2032, and a protein bar. Speaking of ear pro... I think it would be a good idea to (at the minimum) have a set of $30 electronic earmuffs permanently assigned to your PC/war belt combo. I’d also add a small padded pouch for NODs so you don’t bang them up during day time. If you go hot in a mass unrest incident, your ears are going to be ringing like you’ve never imagined. Today’s tech allows us to protect our hearing from gun fights while at the same time being able to hear normal conversations. Edit: Saw the dog tags under your avatar so you already know all of the above. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: Originally Posted By Sonoran_Tj: Plate carrier (and more) as it stands right now. Crye JPC 2.0 -First Spear tubes sewn in by Down Range Gear -cummerbund is attached by WTF straps and homemade loop keepers instead of bungees Crye MOLLE front flap with Esstac triple KYWI panel Juggernaut phone case and mount with Galaxy S6 running ATAK-CIV USGI IFAK at 7 o'clock https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/276110/Layout_2020-11_resized_jpg-1707392.JPG Nice! All I would add is a small admin pouch on the cummerbund for CR123 batteries, multi-tool, small flashlight, a few zip ties, small roll of tape, small note pad, Sharpie, pen, ear pro, torx driver, CR2032, and a protein bar. Speaking of ear pro... I think it would be a good idea to (at the minimum) have a set of $30 electronic earmuffs permanently assigned to your PC/war belt combo. I’d also add a small padded pouch for NODs so you don’t bang them up during day time. If you go hot in a mass unrest incident, your ears are going to be ringing like you’ve never imagined. Today’s tech allows us to protect our hearing from gun fights while at the same time being able to hear normal conversations. Edit: Saw the dog tags under your avatar so you already know all of the above. I forgot to put my Ops-core AMPs on my helmet because apparently I suck at flexing on the poors . I didn't have them attached from the last time I was hog hunting, using a suppressor negates needing the earpro.I prefer a backpack for carrying extra stuff. NODs and all that assorted admin pouch stuff can go in a small backpack. Even on my work IOTV the admin pouch only holds a map, protractor, and a couple map pens. |
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Posted: 11/30/2020 1:46:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sonoran_Tj: Juggernaut phone case and mount with Galaxy S6 running ATAK-CIV Speaking of, does Arfcom have an ATAK discussion thread somewhere? |
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Posted: 11/30/2020 6:48:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: Nice! All I would add is a small admin pouch on the cummerbund for CR123 batteries, multi-tool, small flashlight, a few zip ties, small roll of tape, small note pad, Sharpie, pen, ear pro, torx driver, CR2032, and a protein bar. Speaking of ear pro... I think it would be a good idea to (at the minimum) have a set of $30 electronic earmuffs permanently assigned to your PC/war belt combo. I’d also add a small padded pouch for NODs so you don’t bang them up during day time. If you go hot in a mass unrest incident, your ears are going to be ringing like you’ve never imagined. Today’s tech allows us to protect our hearing from gun fights while at the same time being able to hear normal conversations. Edit: Saw the dog tags under your avatar so you already know all of the above. He shoots very big guns at work so his hearing is probably fucked anyways
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Posted: 11/30/2020 10:31:40 AM EDT
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Since I have a esstac ass coming , does anyone have any thoughts on pontoon/ pad options for the Interior velcro. I was going to pick up a pair from skd but there isn't a whole lot of user feedback to read up on, I know there are other options such as qcore and armorvent etc.
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Posted: 11/30/2020 10:53:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By polishkebasa: Since I have a esstac ass coming , does anyone have any thoughts on pontoon/ pad options for the Interior velcro. I was going to pick up a pair from skd but there isn't a whole lot of user feedback to read up on, I know there are other options such as qcore and armorvent etc. Thanks Beez might fit as well. But I'll say the icevents are worth it |
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Posted: 11/30/2020 1:02:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zakk_Wylde_470]
[#38]
Here's my Tier None setup.
Shellback Skirmish LAPG plates Esstac triple KYWI mid naked (RIP my thumbs  )Source 1L Kangaroo Krydex tubes   I had to order a BFG Micro Trauma Now pouch, the HSP MM Hanger I bought isn't compatible with the Skirmish PC 
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Posted: 11/30/2020 2:11:47 PM EDT
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LBX 0300, Hesco 4401, esstac pouch, Gerber ghost strike. That’s it so far. Been wearing it around every chance I get. Neighbors look at me weird, but I don’t care.
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Posted: 11/30/2020 9:24:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Advance]
[#40]
Hesco 3810 and U210 plates arrived today. I replaced my HighCom (7.2 lb.) boat anchors with the 3810s in my 6094A and it now weighs 20 lbs. fully stocked.
Still waiting on Blue Force double belt and Safariland ALS holster...  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/30/2020 10:07:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: Hesco 3810 and U210 plates arrived today. I replaced my HighCom (7.2 lb.) boat anchors with the 3810s in my 6094A and it now weighs 20 lbs. fully stocked. Still waiting on Blue Force double belt and Safariland ALS holster... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/D5D3E1A3-65F9-4E11-BC8D-493D0BBEDC6D_jpe-1709014.JPG Squared away. |
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Posted: 11/30/2020 10:20:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GingerShanks]
[#42]
Just mounted up a tall triple kywi on my APC. Fingers hurt. If I leave these loaded for a couple weeks will they loosen up slightly? Retention is serious.
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Posted: 11/30/2020 10:34:18 PM EDT
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Ok. Probably gonna take the flatpack off my slickster. Anyone know a h2o pouch that doesn't use malice clips to attach. For a small 1L source bladder.
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Posted: 11/30/2020 10:39:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Doodles]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: Ok. Probably gonna take the flatpack off my slickster. Anyone know a h2o pouch that doesn't use malice clips to attach. For a small 1L source bladder. Are you looking for no molle/pals straps at all or just not Malice clips? |
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Posted: 11/30/2020 11:49:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: stoner01]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Doodles: Are you looking for no molle/pals straps at all or just not Malice clips? Jusy don't want to attach with malice clips. So Molle straps or a similar material. Ideally slick for the outer facing portion. ETA MAYBE THIS |
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Posted: 11/30/2020 11:54:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: Jusy don't want to attach with malice clips. So Molle straps or a similar material. Ideally slick for the outer facing portion. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: Originally Posted By Doodles: Are you looking for no molle/pals straps at all or just not Malice clips? Jusy don't want to attach with malice clips. So Molle straps or a similar material. Ideally slick for the outer facing portion. The Source Kangaroo has a slick outer and attaches via MOLLE straps. |
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Posted: 11/30/2020 11:58:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: Hesco 3810 and U210 plates arrived today. I replaced my HighCom (7.2 lb.) boat anchors with the 3810s in my 6094A and it now weighs 20 lbs. fully stocked. Still waiting on Blue Force double belt and Safariland ALS holster... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/D5D3E1A3-65F9-4E11-BC8D-493D0BBEDC6D_jpe-1709014.JPG @PFran42 What battle belt is that? |
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Posted: 12/1/2020 12:26:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Doodles]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: The Source Kangaroo has a slick outer and attaches via MOLLE straps. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: Originally Posted By stoner01: Originally Posted By Doodles: Are you looking for no molle/pals straps at all or just not Malice clips? Jusy don't want to attach with malice clips. So Molle straps or a similar material. Ideally slick for the outer facing portion. The Source Kangaroo has a slick outer and attaches via MOLLE straps. Yep, that's what I was thinking also. @stoner01 I switched from the Razor to the Kangaroo. Fits the PC much better and lower profile. The Kangaroo is a modular pouch canteen/hydration system |
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Posted: 12/1/2020 12:30:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Doodles: Yep, that's what I was thinking also. @stoner01 I switched from the Razor to the Kangaroo. Fits the PC much better and lower profile. The Kangaroo is a modular pouch canteen/hydration system Thanks Doods |
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Posted: 12/1/2020 12:39:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Doodles]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: Thanks Doods No problem  Edit: Small SAPI PC photo for size reference 
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