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Posted: 8/4/2009 1:14:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MOS2111]
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I am a tard.
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Posted: 8/4/2009 6:53:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/4/2009 8:12:33 AM EDT
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good job hawk.
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AL, USA
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Posted: 8/4/2009 6:18:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hawkeye:
Was it this thread you were looking for? http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=10&t=231664 good job hawk. i'm going to link to it in the review section, even though only team members can see the whole thread. soon as i can get the guys at arfcom to take some sort of electronic payment i'm hooking myself up. i'm to lazy to get a USPS MO. |
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Posted: 8/5/2009 12:37:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hawkeye]
[#5]
Couple of pics with the newer X-Camo.....
Same pic, but just a few inches further into the brush..... lighting and shadows, they can really affect how well something does or doesnt work. Something to keep in mind. 
I think the newer X-Camo is far better than the previous version. More T&E needed though. I am just going to refer to the newer X-camo as Gen II from here on. Just for kicks, I had a spare minute at work............. Gen II X-camo top, digital desert trousers. And no, I wasnt trying to hide here. 
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Posted: 8/9/2009 5:44:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hawkeye]
[#6]
Did a few today with the Digital Woodland.
Just showing how it tends to take on background colors, almost similar to multicam. 
Exposed skin can be a killer when it comes to camo effect. As an example........ Sleeves rolled up with arms exposed. 
Sleeves rolled down. 
Sleeves up. 
Sleeves down. 
And one last one..... 
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Posted: 8/9/2009 8:42:30 PM EDT
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Looks like you have some land there. Where in FL are you?
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Posted: 8/9/2009 8:59:10 PM EDT
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N.E. FL.
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Posted: 8/9/2009 9:01:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hawkeye:
Did a few today with the Digital Woodland. Just showing how it tends to take on background colors, almost similar to multicam. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Hawkeye1/Gear/Camo%20comparison/Digiwood-3.jpg Exposed skin can be a killer when it comes to camo effect. As an example........ Sleeves rolled up with arms exposed. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Hawkeye1/Gear/Camo%20comparison/Digiwood-4.jpg Sleeves rolled down. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Hawkeye1/Gear/Camo%20comparison/Digiwood-7.jpg Sleeves up. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Hawkeye1/Gear/Camo%20comparison/Digiwood-5.jpg Sleeves down. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Hawkeye1/Gear/Camo%20comparison/Digiwood-6.jpg And one last one..... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Hawkeye1/Gear/Camo%20comparison/Digiwood-8.jpg Nice work, thanks. I love these camo threads and appreciate the work of the OP to get these photos to us. Do you have any similar ones with the older woodland or maybe ACU? |
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Posted: 8/9/2009 9:11:10 PM EDT
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The OG Woodland would be slightly blotchier than the digi and UCP (ACU as it's miscalled) would be alot like the desert digi as in it'll wash out in green environment.
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Posted: 8/9/2009 10:00:15 PM EDT
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Great Pics. I'm impressed with the Digital Woodland. I've always thought just from looks that it appeared to be a much better woodland camo than the Army's ACU. As former Army myself I think the Marine Corps was definitely a step or two ahead of the Army when they went with the Desert Digital and the Woodland Digital MARPAT Camo Patterns.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/10/2009 7:21:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RangemasterP226:
Do you have any similar ones with the older woodland or maybe ACU? 
please note I live in a state where the vegation changes-a lot-with the seasons, something to think about. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/10/2009 7:39:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hawkeye:
lighting and shadows, they can really affect how well something does or doesnt work. Something to keep in mind.
yep when you are 'in the woods' the light is much more subdued, so for example the whole "but multicam is too lite" argument is a mute point. 
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Posted: 8/10/2009 5:10:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hawkeye]
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Here are a few shots of the Digital Desert pattern in a somewhat wooded environment. Now, we all know that tan, khaki, light browns, etc., colors most people think of as "desert" colors, all only work in the actual desert.......right?
As with ANY pattern/color, if you just stand in the open and expect to either disappear or look like a bush, you'll fail. Instead of disappearing or suddenly looking like bush, you'll just look like a guy standing there in camo clothes. 
But add just a little bit of something in front of you, and things begin to change quickly. 
Out in the open......... 
And not so open..... 
Even in darker/shadowy area's, "Desert" colors/patterns CAN be effective.......... 
Are they as effective as say Multicam or the Digital Woodland in this type of environment? No. Can they work though to some degree? Yes. ** Just a side note on these pics... they were taken late in the afternoon, whereas the Digital Woodland pics were taken in the middle of the day. Just want to point this out as the difference in the time of day makes it not a true apples to apples comparison. |
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Posted: 8/10/2009 5:11:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BB868:
Originally Posted By Hawkeye:
lighting and shadows, they can really affect how well something does or doesnt work. Something to keep in mind.
yep when you are 'in the woods' the light is much more subdued, so for example the whole "but multicam is too lite" argument is a mute point. http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc44/bb868/GEDC0370.jpg Agree completely. |
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Posted: 8/10/2009 5:18:42 PM EDT
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Right now, for me personally, I am liking the Digital Woodland the best, with Multicam a very close second. The Digital Desert can obviously be used, and is better than nothing, but not as effective as the other two. Gen II X-camo will be next.
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Posted: 8/29/2009 5:13:54 PM EDT
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Finally had some time to do a few more. Here are some Multicam shots (late afternoon sun, partly cloudy).......... Impressive as always.
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Posted: 8/29/2009 5:21:50 PM EDT
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Multicam and Digital Woodland/MARPAT Woodland are fast becoming my favorites.
Some shots from the same locations.... (unfortunately different times of day so the lighting is a bit different) Multicam
Digital Woodland
Multicam
Digital Woodland
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WV, USA
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Posted: 8/29/2009 5:29:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By imortal:
Originally Posted By kodiak0202:
Originally Posted By imortal:
That is Woodland Digital. If you look at it, it seems to be a digital version of Multicam, but I am not 100% sure of that. I don't know if it is just me, but I get sort of a Tiger-stripe camo feel off of the Woodland Digital. I mean, I like it, but it feels... off for some reason. Actually the top left is x-camo, the bottom one it digital woodland. but yes i some sense Tiger Stripe also in the X-camo, and also in the woodland digital. Thanks for the correction. The woodland camo looks pretty good, but it looks like there are 3 shades of brown and only 1 of green. Personally, I think that if they added a bit of lighter green into the mix, it would turn out really well. Or has that been done? edit just went back and looked again. ..or were you talking about the X-Camo? Hawkeye, you mentioned in another thread that you had some older woodland digital camo, and that it has been 'toned down' since. Is this you have displayed here the older or newer kind? If you have seen both, could you elaborate? Also, does anyone know if the 5.11 woodland digital camo and the Propper woodland digital camo are the same mix. or are they competing? Also, I am about to the point where I need a listed thread just with a picture of each pattern with just a description of what the pattern is and who it is use by, if anyone. The woodland digital looks similar to the USMC, but I am not sure if it is the same pattern (with or without the AEG) or just similar. Antoher edit: I found this when I googled 'digital multicam', although people are claiming it is not. Can anyone ID the pattern for me, and maybe point me to another thread if it has already been discussed? BB868, I see you posted this also a while back. Any info? http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll83/imortal_22/digitalmulticam.jpg looks like Italian digital |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 8/30/2009 4:58:25 AM EDT
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Just imagine...
ACU pattern, but with Desert Tiger stripe colors... 
(sigh) |
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Posted: 8/30/2009 6:14:07 AM EDT
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I'm about to buy some heavy duty hunting gear from Sitka Gear.
Their Optifade camo that they use; produced in collaboration with Gore is pretty impressive. I will work in the areas I hunt very well I believe. Sitka Gear |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 8/30/2009 9:34:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: kitteh]
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I have been using Desert Tiger Stripe, because I think the colors are best for what we have in California.
But, I've been increasingly interested in German Desert Flecktarn as a possible universal cammo. 
If I can find some, I intend to give it a try. |
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Posted: 8/30/2009 9:36:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By kitteh:
Just imagine... ACU pattern, but with Desert Tiger stripe colors... (sigh) I've long said that the color combination in the DTS would work well in just about any pattern. Heck, the DTS would work fine, if they'd just offer it in a blended material. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 8/30/2009 9:49:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hawkeye:
Originally Posted By kitteh:
Just imagine... ACU pattern, but with Desert Tiger stripe colors... (sigh) I've long said that the color combination in the DTS would work well in just about any pattern. Heck, the DTS would work fine, if they'd just offer it in a blended material. Yes... Tan....Coyote....Sage Green.... That would be the ticket. |
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Posted: 8/30/2009 11:02:25 AM EDT
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Anybody test regular woodland against digital woodland in different environments?
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Posted: 8/30/2009 12:22:42 PM EDT
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digital wins.
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Posted: 8/30/2009 2:23:46 PM EDT
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Some GenII X-Camo shots.........
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Posted: 11/10/2009 2:32:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MOS2111:
AS a tag, you planning on doing them under IR with Night Vision? Might change the game a smidge.... I forgot about this..... Need to get on that. |
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Posted: 11/10/2009 2:43:47 PM EDT
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One other update...... as I mentioned in the opening post, material composition is very important to me. The 60/40 Cotton/Poly of both the X-camo's has not been to my liking. Holds moisture far longer than 50/50 NYCO or the 65/35 Poly/Cotton. Gets wet and stays wet. Also, both sets of X-camo are fading badly, and in odd ways. The Multicam and Digitals, still look new.
On a side note, I recently got a few pair of khaki Propper BDU pants from their discount line. They are a 60/40 Cotton/Poly, but seem to manage moisture MUCH better than the X-camo. Just the difference in the material itself I suppose as far as the quality and such is concerned. |
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Posted: 11/10/2009 2:51:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/11/2009 12:30:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 5oulja:
Pffft ! the hell with these. I'm waiting for the predator Cloaking device Ordered mine on amazon last week... 
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LA, USA
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Posted: 11/11/2009 12:55:22 PM EDT
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This is very informative. Keep it up.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/12/2009 4:42:27 AM EDT
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Here's a few:
Multicam and ACU 
More Multicam 
Old School SS patterns 
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Posted: 11/12/2009 2:40:26 PM EDT
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Thanks Hawkeye, this thread is great!
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Posted: 11/12/2009 3:54:51 PM EDT
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What the hell ever happened to good ole' woodland? Very effective!!! Or even OD Green? Also effective! Hell even the old Vietnam Tiger Stripe...
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/12/2009 5:25:17 PM EDT
[#36]
Originally Posted By Pathfinder1:
What the hell ever happened to good ole' woodland? Very effective!!! Or even OD Green? Also effective! Hell even the old Vietnam Tiger Stripe... Pathfinder gee really, have you ever done any teating with it ? I have and woodland comes in last some old pics 
Brand F'in new pics! 
here's a couple of my Multicam Tri-zip for shits and giggles 
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WA, USA
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Posted: 11/12/2009 7:28:49 PM EDT
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Great thread. I took multicam and dyed it dark green to give it a darker hue, it worked fantastic. Multicam is just a little too bright IMHO, but after the mod.
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Posted: 11/13/2009 9:45:29 AM EDT
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Woodland can be effective, in its intended environment. Its a very specific environment though.... which is dark, shadowy hardwood forests. Its pretty limited outside of that, especially when compared to other offerings.
Its not one of my favorites (see thread title) though, so thats why its not featured here. 
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Posted: 11/13/2009 11:14:09 AM EDT
[#40]
Originally Posted By Hawkeye:
Woodland can be effective, in its intended environment. Its a very specific environment though.... which is dark, shadowy hardwood forests. Its pretty limited outside of that, especially when compared to other offerings. Its not one of my favorites (see thread title) though, so thats why its not featured here. Just throwing one in there... Great post anyways!!! I like the Army digital or the MARPAT the best out of all the hype these days, but I don't think I would give up my woodland anytime soon. Pathfinder |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/13/2009 5:16:29 PM EDT
[#41]
Originally Posted By Pathfinder1:
The trick is to not stand out in the open or hang them in an open sunlit area.... Camoflauge is best used when trying to conceal. Oh, so thats how it works, my bad..................................................... 
I'd really like to see how it works-" EFFECTIVELY!" in MI when it looks like this for a little over half the year.
 
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Posted: 11/16/2009 11:31:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BB868:
Originally Posted By Pathfinder1:
The trick is to not stand out in the open or hang them in an open sunlit area.... Camoflauge is best used when trying to conceal. Oh, so thats how it works, my bad.....................................................
I'd really like to see how it works-" EFFECTIVELY!" in MI when it looks like this for a little over half the year. http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc44/bb868/001_1.jpg http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc44/bb868/10A.jpg LOL! As said before, don't hang them out in the well lit open. I make it work all the time, even in the winter when there is snow on the ground. Pathfinder |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/16/2009 12:37:53 PM EDT
[#43]
Originally Posted By Pathfinder1:
Originally Posted By BB868:
Originally Posted By Pathfinder1:
The trick is to not stand out in the open or hang them in an open sunlit area.... Camoflauge is best used when trying to conceal. Oh, so thats how it works, my bad.....................................................
I'd really like to see how it works-" EFFECTIVELY!" in MI when it looks like this for a little over half the year. http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc44/bb868/001_1.jpg http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc44/bb868/10A.jpg LOL! As said before, don't hang them out in the well lit open. I make it work all the time, even in the winter when there is snow on the ground. Pathfinder  
you got me 
I guess I could always wear a orange trash bag and just sit behind a tree, that would be pretty 'effective' also  
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Posted: 11/16/2009 1:25:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BB868:
Originally Posted By Pathfinder1:
Originally Posted By BB868:
Originally Posted By Pathfinder1:
The trick is to not stand out in the open or hang them in an open sunlit area.... Camoflauge is best used when trying to conceal. Oh, so thats how it works, my bad.....................................................
I'd really like to see how it works-" EFFECTIVELY!" in MI when it looks like this for a little over half the year. http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc44/bb868/001_1.jpg http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc44/bb868/10A.jpg LOL! As said before, don't hang them out in the well lit open. I make it work all the time, even in the winter when there is snow on the ground. Pathfinder
you got me
I guess I could always wear a orange trash bag and just sit behind a tree, that would be pretty 'effective' also LMAO!! Well, your pics have them sitting out in the open on coat hangers in the sun... Ofcourse they are gonna show up & stick out... duh
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/16/2009 6:21:13 PM EDT
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Don't worry Pathfinder, every one of his posts, no matter where he posts is rather rude and smartass.
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Posted: 11/17/2009 8:24:00 AM EDT
[#46]
Originally Posted By TxSoldier:
Don't worry Pathfinder, every one of his posts, no matter where he posts is rather rude and smartass. Yea, it is all part of the "internet personna"... Really doesn't bother me. Pathfinder |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/17/2009 4:22:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TxSoldier:
Don't worry Pathfinder, every one of his posts, no matter where he posts is rather rude and smartass. 
Oh that hurts
I'm so sorry  I was mearly pointing out how bad woodland sucks ass I know, I know, you have to hide behind thick
brush, and in the shadows, and then it works great  , never mind if it does even go with your background in general, or when you don't have any thing to hide behind ( as shown in my pics, multicam does )
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Posted: 11/17/2009 6:26:23 PM EDT
[#48]
Gentlemen, please be polite.
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Posted: 12/21/2009 5:06:44 PM EDT
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I recently picked up a pair of Tru-Spec TRU Pro-G bdu's in Coyote. I got mine from Desert Deuce but they are also available at OPSGear as well.
The material is a 65/35 Poly/Cotton ripstop. So far, my first impressions are very favorable. I'll get some more pics up of them outdoors soon. Also, I havent forgotten about doing some night vision shots with the others both with, and without, IR illumination, just havent had a chance to get to it. I'll be including these when I do. 
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Posted: 12/29/2009 12:47:49 PM EDT
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just got a pair of the la police or whoever/511 operator 65/35 pants for x-mas. If you want pics for this thread i'll get some.
alot thinner than what i expected, my surplus 65/35( or whatever blend) tri colors are thicker. But should do well for backpacking,summer use( why i wanted them anyway)... |
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