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War Belt/1st Line Picture Thread (Page 156 of 158)
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Originally Posted By WorkDroid: For me they're just right. Not to grippy I struggle to get the mag out, but I have confidence they'll stay put. Havent done cart wheels with loaded mags yet though  The inside of the pouches are a semi-rubberized texture. What really sold me is their versatility. Rifle pouches hold AR, AK, AR308 and M1A mags. Pistol pouches hold double and single stack no prob. If youre taking something different to the range everytime then G-codes the way to go. Otherwise the cheaper dedicated mag type pouch will save you money. Tacos are versatile too, not sure if they are cheaper, but Ive read tacos dont have a fared insertion lip like the G-code. Meaning mags can catch and roll down the top lip of the taco. Cool, thank you for the info! I’d probably be using them primarily for AR, however I think I’d use them for AK from time to time, so that versatility is nice. As far as attaching to a battle belt, do the pouches stay pretty secure? Thank you again for the info! 
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Constructed almost entirely from used parts bought here on Arfcom. Thanks to everyone who sold me pieces of this. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By 170Driver: As far as attaching to a battle belt, do the pouches stay pretty secure? @170Driver They do. Inside of the rifle mag pouch attachements is velcro that interface with the velcro on the inside of your belt. Those are almost impossible to slide around. The pistol pouches use a plastic loop, with inserts for different size belts (circled in red). When you order the loop attachment, you tell them what size your belt is and they send the corresponding insert. The loops are easier to slide around your belt, but they do stay put. They have different options for mouting each type of pouch. On the downside their web site isn't very intuitive, so when deciding on attachments be sure to get all the info you need. Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By WorkDroid: @170Driver They do. Inside of the rifle mag pouch attachements is velcro that interface with the velcro on the inside of your belt. Those are almost impossible to slide around. The pistol pouches use a plastic loop, with inserts for different size belts (circled in red). When you order the loop attachment, you tell them what size your belt is and they send the corresponding insert. The loops are easier to slide around your belt, but they do stay put. They have different options for mouting each type of pouch. On the downside their web site isn't very intuitive, so when deciding on attachments be sure to get all the info you need. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/525/1000013743_jpg-3482154.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/525/1000013744_jpg-3482155.JPG Originally Posted By WorkDroid: Originally Posted By 170Driver: As far as attaching to a battle belt, do the pouches stay pretty secure? @170Driver They do. Inside of the rifle mag pouch attachements is velcro that interface with the velcro on the inside of your belt. Those are almost impossible to slide around. The pistol pouches use a plastic loop, with inserts for different size belts (circled in red). When you order the loop attachment, you tell them what size your belt is and they send the corresponding insert. The loops are easier to slide around your belt, but they do stay put. They have different options for mouting each type of pouch. On the downside their web site isn't very intuitive, so when deciding on attachments be sure to get all the info you need. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/525/1000013743_jpg-3482154.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/525/1000013744_jpg-3482155.JPG @WorkDroid Thank you!! I think I’m going to go with them in that case. When I was looking around their website, it did raise more questions as far as attachment methods go. One last question, do you find the smooth backing of the mag carriers causing increased movement with your outer belt (less hook and loop attachment due to the mag carrier clip being between the inner and outer belt)? Thanks again!
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Originally Posted By 170Driver: One last question, do you find the smooth backing of the mag carriers causing increased movement with your outer belt (less hook and loop attachment due to the mag carrier clip being between the inner and outer belt)? Thanks again! There is definitely some hook/loop realestate being taken up by the attachments. A pack of sticky-back velcro strips from home depot would make a great fix for that. (Stick em to the back of the attachements) @170Driver |
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Originally Posted By WorkDroid: Havent used the inner belt other than trying it out at home. I just use the outter belt. There is definitely some hook/loop realestate being taken up by the attachments. A pack of sticky-back velcro strips from home depot would make a great fix for that. (Stick em to the back of the attachements) @170Driver Cool, that sounds like an easy fix. Thank you again for the help!
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Originally Posted By GingerShanks: I kinda want a dump pouch. Not sure why. Nobody wears them where I train because empty mags are for gays and don’t get into the habit of picking up empty mags and all of that. I’d be convenient for policing empties from the line to the bench though. Thoughts on dump pouches in general? I’d buy Esstac. I like the blue force gear dump pouch. It’s very compact. I use it for evidence and guns in real life. On the range it’s good for water, snacks and mags. |
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Originally Posted By 170Driver: Cool, that sounds like an easy fix. Thank you again for the help!  |
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Attached File Esstac belt and pouches. Burrito ifak. 4bros holster. |
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Ok belt gurus - I need some help. I just got an S&S precision holster for my belt setup. Standard molle attachment. However, when the OFFENSIVE HANDGUN is holstered in it, it rides waaay high. So I’ve been looking for something like the downrange gear low ride panel. I’d like to have some kind of a 2-column vertical molle extension so that I can drop it down by probably 2 rows. Seems like that particular adapter is out of stock and maybe discontinued possibly. Is there anything that fits this bill out there? Something like a piece of tegris I could attach to the belt with slots cut to attach the molle to. Attached File Attached File Attached File Also, I’m fully aware I won’t be executing any sub-second draws from this rig. I wanted a somewhat universal holster I can use with my P7, Mk23, and assorted glocks. |
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Anyone tried this Nexbelt inner? I've had the same Nexbelt for my daily belt for about 5 years, it's about to be retired from its service, and while looking for upgrades I found this inner. I'm contemplating getting it, as I love the adjustablity, but wondered if any of you had seen it yet? |
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Originally Posted By sdwornicki: Also, I’m fully aware I won’t be executing any sub-second draws from this rig. I wanted a somewhat universal holster I can use with my P7, Mk23, and assorted glocks. You'd be better off using a Safariland UBL and a QLS system.  What is the Safariland QLS (Quick Locking System)? |
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Originally Posted By PistoleroJesse: You'd be better off using a Safariland UBL and a QLS system.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOq6f8LKFsAOriginally Posted By PistoleroJesse: Originally Posted By sdwornicki: Also, I’m fully aware I won’t be executing any sub-second draws from this rig. I wanted a somewhat universal holster I can use with my P7, Mk23, and assorted glocks. You'd be better off using a Safariland UBL and a QLS system. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOq6f8LKFsA
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Originally Posted By Yumago: Anyone have suggestions for suspenders for the battle belt? Currently going through my weight loss journey and don't want to buy a new belt till my weight settles. Have Blue Force Gear with the thick bunggie yoke. It was great with just the belt, but unsat with a PC or Ruck. Tried ATS low profile and they have no give. Some give is necessary if you are doing a inner/outer belt setup. On my short list to try next are the HSGI and then maybe the V-Tac. |
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Originally Posted By Yumago: Anyone have suggestions for suspenders for the battle belt? Currently going through my weight loss journey and don't want to buy a new belt till my weight settles. I have a set of Tactical Tailor padded suspenders, and they're great. However, I usually wear armor over the strap, so a set each of ATS and HSGIs are my primaries (7.62N and 5.56 belts). Take your pick between those two. |
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Originally Posted By -MainDisconnect-: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/366627/IMG_4025_jpeg-3499419.JPG I approve of this! Did the holster come wrapped or did you do it yourself? |
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Originally Posted By billygoat69: I approve of this! Did the holster come wrapped or did you do it yourself? Originally Posted By billygoat69: Originally Posted By -MainDisconnect-: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/366627/IMG_4025_jpeg-3499419.JPG I approve of this! Did the holster come wrapped or did you do it yourself? Did it myself. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By WorkDroid: @-MainDisconnect- Spray on glue? Originally Posted By WorkDroid: Originally Posted By -MainDisconnect-: Did it myself. Spray on glue? It has an adhesive back. Second one we have done. No problems with it. |
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Originally Posted By chargerkid5: How are you guys wearing your belts? Are you running inner and outer? Load bearing? Just outer? I'm new to this belt thing so apologies for the newbie question. I actually often just wear the outer belt over my sweater at the range without bothering to connect it to any velcro inner belt, and with the thigh strap from the holster it stays in place just fine. |
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Originally Posted By chargerkid5: How are you guys wearing your belts? Are you running inner and outer? Load bearing? Just outer? I'm new to this belt thing so apologies for the newbie question. I usually wear inner and outer. Only time I only wear outer is if I’m exercising with the belt on and wearing gym shorts. Side story: I have a shooting buddy who is a bit dense. He’s been wearing his regular belt, then the inner/outer belt over that. One match his regular belt broke and he was having to hold up his pants with his left hand. “Dude!!! Use the inner belt through your belt loops to hold up your pants!” |
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Originally Posted By chargerkid5: How are you guys wearing your belts? Are you running inner and outer? Load bearing? Just outer? I'm new to this belt thing so apologies for the newbie question. Depends on the belt. My esstac and my work duty belts both have velcro so I use a velcro inner belt ran through my belt loops. I'll still throw my gun belt on over a hoodie or sweatshirt if I'm in the cold or practicing dry fire, still works okay. |
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Originally Posted By caduckgunner: Have belt sleeves fallen out of fashion? I never see the big molle belt sleeves that you ran a riggers belt through anymore. I'm pretty sure that's what my belt has which is why I'm asking. Got a bunch of tassles on it to either hold the belt up with a carrier or hold your pants up and belt down. |
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Originally Posted By chargerkid5: I'm pretty sure that's what my belt has which is why I'm asking. Got a bunch of tassles on it to either hold the belt up with a carrier or hold your pants up and belt down. Yep. That's how fads work. What's in is in, what's out is out. Just wait and it'll flip again. |
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Originally Posted By caduckgunner: Have belt sleeves fallen out of fashion? I never see the big molle belt sleeves that you ran a riggers belt through anymore. Generally yes |
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"I'll come for the killing and stay for the cheesecake"
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"I'll come for the killing and stay for the cheesecake"
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I built up a battle belt, but it seems to be on the chonky side. I need to run around with it and do a few courses this summer to see what works or doesn't. Maybe I could drop a 5.56 mag holder and just down to one? As it stands it's an HSG Operator 2.0 belt, HSG 9mm and 5.56 double mag holders, HSG tourniquet pouch + Soft-T, Esstac dump pouch, Safariland Holster for a Staccato P, and a Blue Force Gear Med pouch.  |
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Originally Posted By PistoleroJesse: Have Blue Force Gear with the thick bunggie yoke. It was great with just the belt, but unsat with a PC or Ruck. Tried ATS low profile and they have no give. Some give is necessary if you are doing a inner/outer belt setup. On my short list to try next are the HSGI and then maybe the V-Tac. Originally Posted By PistoleroJesse: Originally Posted By Yumago: Anyone have suggestions for suspenders for the battle belt? Currently going through my weight loss journey and don't want to buy a new belt till my weight settles. Have Blue Force Gear with the thick bunggie yoke. It was great with just the belt, but unsat with a PC or Ruck. Tried ATS low profile and they have no give. Some give is necessary if you are doing a inner/outer belt setup. On my short list to try next are the HSGI and then maybe the V-Tac. I don't think BFG makes them anymore. |
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Belt is coming along. Not really sure if I'm going to add anything else. Also not sure it's worth the expense of buying a new Safariland in Ranger green to satisfy my color matching OCD . - Haley D3 V2 - Spiritus pistol mag pouch on Haley 45 degree mandible - JSTA with SLEDs insert - Coyote Tactical Burrito - Safariland 6354 DO on a drop flex adapter with chopped down leg shroud - Haley Anything hook  Only thing I may still add is a Blue Force Gear Ten Speed ultralight dump pouch. |
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Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: That haley belt looks really good I'm liking it so far. I've been wearing it quite a bit around the farm since I got it a couple of weeks ago. It's not super loaded down but it carries the weight well. It's pretty stiff but comfortable to wear. My only other belt experience has been with one of the old padded HSGI suregrips. This is my first inner/outer belt. It's definitely less intrusive. I need to get a padded liner to see how it works with one of them. |
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I've went through several newfangled belts in the last couple years (AXL Eclipse, DM Mech Belt, Shaw It just goes on. No fucking around getting the inner lined up, no sucking in your gut to make the Cobra buckle latch if you have the belt adjusted tight, and as the day progresses and the belt inevitably loosens, just ratchet it down another click. Or ratchet it out after drinking a few liters of water. If you want an EDC belt, or just a normal belt to hold your britches up, run that underneath, no sweat. Did an 8 hour pistol course last week with an untucked T-shirt, in 95+ Central Florida weather, sweating like a pig, and that belt didn't move and no hotspots. Easy to take off during breaks, easy to put back on.  From left to right: NEOMAG Tac Trap Agilite Pincer pistol and AR mag pouches with MOLLE strips cut off, One Wrapped BFG dump pouch, also One Wrap-ish DM IFAK, again One Wrap Another Agilite Pincer pistol pouch with multi-tool, (this might be a trend) with MOLLE straps cut and One Wrapped Guardian Warrior Solutions Bang Hanger with QLS (obviously not One Wrapped). It's like a True North MHA for people who are not masochists. Shaw Sidekick V2 padded elastic leg strap attached to Bang Hanger, also non-masochistic. Safariland 6390 RDS with NUB mod, Amazon metal TQ mount, DIY Multicam wrap, and a home printed TQ holder Generic MOLLE carabiner Wilder Urban Assault inner belt pad. KORE has a newer laser-cut version instead of sewn MOLLE that's a little slicker, but right now it only comes in black, if it ever comes in OD or FDE or even MC, I'll probably pick one up. |
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Originally Posted By WorkDroid: @sparky-kb It looks like your haley belt has some on the fly adjustment at the buckle? How much adjustment is there? It does. There's a decent amount, but I'm not sure the actual number. I'll try to measure it when I get the chance. In the meantime, here's a pic I took the other day of the buckle area. You can kinda get the idea based on the tail that's rolled up and secured.  I'm a 34 waist in most pants and waffled back and forth on what size to go with since my real waist measurement was close to the top end for a medium. Eventually decided to go medium instead of the large and there's still tons of room to adjust out. I'm not sure if I'd have been able to get a large tight enough. |
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Originally Posted By sparky-kb: I really like the JSTA. Very useful around the farm. Room for a flashlight, multitool, my phone, and my Obsidian 9 suppressor in short configuration. Balances out my pistol pretty well too. https://i.imgur.com/K1GCJcp.jpeg @sparky-kb if you hate the sound of Velcro like me this is pretty nice for the jsta https://tracer-tactical.com/products/viper-adapter-jsta-pouch |
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Originally Posted By bdover: @sparky-kb if you hate the sound of Velcro like me this is pretty nice for the jsta https://tracer-tactical.com/products/viper-adapter-jsta-pouch Originally Posted By bdover: Originally Posted By sparky-kb: I really like the JSTA. Very useful around the farm. Room for a flashlight, multitool, my phone, and my Obsidian 9 suppressor in short configuration. Balances out my pistol pretty well too. https://i.imgur.com/K1GCJcp.jpeg @sparky-kb if you hate the sound of Velcro like me this is pretty nice for the jsta https://tracer-tactical.com/products/viper-adapter-jsta-pouch That's pretty cool! I may need one of those eventually. |
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Originally Posted By Croak: I've went through several newfangled belts in the last couple years (AXL Eclipse, DM Mech Belt, Shaw It just goes on. No fucking around getting the inner lined up, no sucking in your gut to make the Cobra buckle latch if you have the belt adjusted tight, and as the day progresses and the belt inevitably loosens, just ratchet it down another click. Or ratchet it out after drinking a few liters of water. If you want an EDC belt, or just a normal belt to hold your britches up, run that underneath, no sweat. Did an 8 hour pistol course last week with an untucked T-shirt, in 95+ Central Florida weather, sweating like a pig, and that belt didn't move and no hotspots. Easy to take off during breaks, easy to put back on. https://imgur.com/UKISqqf.jpg From left to right: NEOMAG Tac Trap Agilite Pincer pistol and AR mag pouches with MOLLE strips cut off, One Wrapped BFG dump pouch, also One Wrap-ish DM IFAK, again One Wrap Another Agilite Pincer pistol pouch with multi-tool, (this might be a trend) with MOLLE straps cut and One Wrapped Guardian Warrior Solutions Bang Hanger with QLS (obviously not One Wrapped). It's like a True North MHA for people who are not masochists. Shaw Sidekick V2 padded elastic leg strap attached to Bang Hanger, also non-masochistic. Safariland 6390 RDS with NUB mod, Amazon metal TQ mount, DIY Multicam wrap, and a home printed TQ holder Generic MOLLE carabiner Wilder Urban Assault inner belt pad. KORE has a newer laser-cut version instead of sewn MOLLE that's a little slicker, but right now it only comes in black, if it ever comes in OD or FDE or even MC, I'll probably pick one up. @Croak I've been running mech belts for a few years but have been eyeballing the kore for awhile. How does it compare stiffness wise? I like how the mech belt has that overlap and doesn't flex up at the buckle like most belts do under a heavy load at the back. It looks like the kore buckle and keeper would accomplish the same thing. Probably not as rigid as the mech but rigid enough. I love the mech belts but it's tough to get the tension right with it loaded down with shit. Thinking of going to the kore for the heavy belt and retiring the mechs to lighter duty. |
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