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6/10/2009 12:53:57 PM EDT
I was recently looking for a small MOLLE butt pack that I could attach to the bottom of my 3 day assault/bug out pack to reduce its overall weight. A lot of the MOLLE packs I was looking at were to tall to fit properly underneath my Camelbak. After several days of searching on the net I came accross this.



Here is the link:
https://www.forceonetactical.com/product_info.php?products_id=145

I ordered one in black and I am very pleased. Although it is made in China () it seems like it will get the job done. It has MOLLE webbing on the outside to attach spare mag pouches and 4 zipper pockets for small items. After attaching four 30 round AR mags to it and some other items from my Camelbak I was able to cut out several pounds out of my bug out bag which I was very pleased about. It has attachment straps at the top to secure it to the bottom of a pack and a adjustable wait strap to secure it around your waist and to support the packs weight. In addition, it also has MOLLE straps on the inside surface so you can attach it to a belt or other MOLLE platforms. Anybody else have any good experiences with butt packs?

- Wes
6/10/2009 1:30:52 PM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
I was recently looking for a small MOLLE butt pack that I could attach to the bottom of my 3 day assault/bug out pack to reduce its overall weight.



so you want to add more gear ( stuff on you ) and weight, to reduce weight?

sounds like a better pack would have done the trick, but if this works for you, have at it.
6/10/2009 3:42:09 PM EDT
[#2]
No,

The items I put in the butt pack were from my bug out bag and since the butt pack has an adjustable waist belt all the wait is on your waist, the attachment straps at the top that attach to the bottom of a pack are just to keep it from moving around, the weight is not actually hanging off the Camelbak. It works good. I was thinking a priceier (USA made) pack would work better as well but I couldn't find one that looked like what I needed.
6/11/2009 3:52:02 AM EDT
[#3]


I would purcahse a proper pack before adding extras. The weight savings will not be there.

And may cuase issues over long hauls.

IMHO c-baks suck as BOB's!


6/11/2009 9:31:39 AM EDT
[#4]
The pack is a good Camelbak. Its a BFM, which is a 3 day assault pack. I've lightened it down to under 30 pounds since I added the butt pack. Its comfortable and durable and has the hydration bladder. Protus, why do you think Cbaks/3 day assault packs are not good BOBs?
6/11/2009 9:49:48 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
The pack is a good Camelbak. Its a BFM, which is a 3 day assault pack. I've lightened it down to under 30 pounds since I added the butt pack. Its comfortable and durable and has the hydration bladder. Protus, why do you think Cbaks/3 day assault packs are not good BOBs?


alright, what

it sounds like you are doing something worng here. are you using the BACK PACK's waist belt ( if not thats problem one ), and if so, it is to go around your WAIST not you belly/gut, which is what you must be doing to get the waist belt of your butt pack around you, thats problem two.

what protus is saying is that those packs do not have any real frame support, and are not torso adjustable, both are addressed with their new
TriZip pack
6/11/2009 12:45:24 PM EDT
[#6]
Yes I'm using the Camelbak's waist belt. Which is tightened up first to bear most of the weight of the pack around my hips, not my shoulders. The waist belt of the butt pack goes slightly lower around my hips. The BFM has an internal single piece frame, but thats about it. From my understanding a 3 day assualt pack like that should be limited to around 30 pounds so thats what I'm shooting for.

Quoted:
Quoted:
The pack is a good Camelbak. Its a BFM, which is a 3 day assault pack. I've lightened it down to under 30 pounds since I added the butt pack. Its comfortable and durable and has the hydration bladder. Protus, why do you think Cbaks/3 day assault packs are not good BOBs?


alright, what

it sounds like you are doing something worng here. are you using the BACK PACK's waist belt ( if not thats problem one ), and if so, it is to go around your WAIST not you belly/gut, which is what you must be doing to get the waist belt of your butt pack around you, thats problem two.

what protus is saying is that those packs do not have any real frame support, and are not torso adjustable, both are addressed with their new
TriZip pack


6/11/2009 1:19:28 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Yes I'm using the Camelbak's waist belt. Which is tightened up first to bear most of the weight of the pack around my hips, not my shoulders. The waist belt of the butt pack goes slightly lower around my hips. The BFM has an internal single piece frame, but thats about it. From my understanding a 3 day assualt pack like that should be limited to around 30 pounds so thats what I'm shooting for.



Ok fine, BUT.....

where some of the comes from is that if your load is more then the 30lbs, and I guess that it is, then get a pack that handles that load ( or change your load )
instead you added a whole nother piece of gear to your body, which is one more thing to put on, with two seperate waist belts to deal with,ect.

I already said that if it works for you, then have at it, but, IMO, a better pack/load out would have been better

YMMV
6/11/2009 3:49:06 PM EDT
[#8]
The load in the Camelbak is more than 30 pounds if I fully stock with water and spare ammo. I thought the butt pack would be a good way of removing the 4 fully loaded AR mags out of the Camelbak to reduce its weight back down to around 30 pounds. Yeah...I could get a framed hiking style Kelty pack or something along those lines to support a heavier load but I figured since I've already paid for this Camelbak some time ago that it would make a good BOB as long as I could figure out the right weight to item ratio. I like the clamshell military type assault packs more then the hiking style packs mainly because of the hydration bladder compartment, MOLLE webbing, and clamshell opening. I haven't taken the butt pack setup out on a hike or anything yet, but I plan on it very soon. So if you other guys have framed packs for heavier loads, why do I see some pics of butt packs in the gear pic thread? Why not just place all your items in your framed pack then?
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