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8/24/2007 11:35:37 AM EDT
What are everybody's opinions on them, are they worth it?  I've got 5 mags and am tired of carrying them around in a 60's era camera bag (though it is coyote brownish in color).hatTT 4 Mag Leg Rig?
8/24/2007 12:14:34 PM EDT
[#1]
I used thigh rigs for pistol and ammo for a while.  Good for simple range work or, I guess if CQB was your bread and butter.  However, they are not good if you plan to be foot mobile a lot (guerilla warfare :)  ,  camping, hiking).  The weight distribution makes it hard to run and manuever around terrain.  As far as the TT leg rig,  I never owned one from TT, but I own other TT items, and they are of good quality.  

I run all my mags on a TT chest rig and my pistol is in a Uncle Mikes kydex holster on my hip now.  I'm more maneverable and I don't tire as quick.
8/24/2007 12:24:06 PM EDT
[#2]
I used to use a 4-mag leg rig from Blackhawk.
Really, 4 mags wobble a bit and make running a little difficult and definitely slower.
I bought a two mag unit from Eagle and it's much easier.
Any more than that and I'll attach my HSGI pouch directly to the belt.
8/24/2007 12:56:06 PM EDT
[#3]
I run a TT small leg panel with two AR mags and two pistol mags on my off side.
Thats actually a bit heavier than I'd like, it swags alot when you run, and if you tighten it down, it pinches your leg.
I like it 'cause it gets stuff off my belt line in the rare event I wear a chest rig with my belt. I may get an HSGI small leg panel in the future to replace my leg rig, since I prefer the one leg strap.
8/24/2007 1:30:22 PM EDT
[#4]
EDIT: are you just talking about using only a thigh-rig for magazines?

If so, I would recommend against it.

Here's why: It puts your magazines further away from your hands and your weapon.  There are other solutions that would serve you better.

Find one that works for you.  A small "go" bag or simple chest rig might be in order.
8/24/2007 3:53:12 PM EDT
[#5]
I like the drop leg rig better than belt mounted pouches.  the belt ones seem to ride too high and could poke you in the ribs while bending/manuevering.  My personal favorite is the rig made by John Willis of "The Original SOE Gear."
8/24/2007 4:34:40 PM EDT
[#6]
I like a thigh holster. I find it easier to reach for my pistol and keep it close to me, for one, because I think a belt holster makes it obvious that you're reaching for it, and thus makes you a target. And a thigh holster looks slick
8/24/2007 5:04:01 PM EDT
[#7]
one of the biggest mistakes that people make with thigh rigs (both holsters and mag pouches) is they put them too far down on their leg. the rigs are actually supposed to ride up higher on the thigh and not so close to the knee. it makes a big difference.
8/24/2007 5:17:39 PM EDT
[#8]
I run a original SOE rig (4 AR mags and 2 pistol mags) purchased about 5 or 6 years ago. It's bombproof, great piece of gear like ALL SOE gear is but, it does get a bit cumbersome and sometimes does flop around even though I cinch it down tight. I view it as just another tool in big box o' gear but prefer a vest- type rig for "serious" purposes.
8/24/2007 5:21:03 PM EDT
[#9]
I use a drop-leg holster for my G17, but I don't use one for ammo and magazines, I prefer to keep them on my beltline or in a vest, the weight really has a tendency to pivot around when running.  YMMV
8/24/2007 5:39:12 PM EDT
[#10]
I stopped running a drop leg for magazines about 2 years ago.

I only ran with 2 AR mags and that was it.  I seriously don't know how anyone can run more then that. It's like strapping a cinder block on your thigh.

I did like them for a fast speed reload.. very natural for your left hand to drop straight down and fall onto a mag while you operate your magazine release with your trigger finger at the same time.

As for vehicle Ops.. more shit to snag getting in/out.

2 mags at the most.. just my $.02
8/24/2007 6:11:25 PM EDT
[#11]
I ran a drop leg rig that carried 6 mags from HSGI on my last deployment. I liked having a few mags on my leg like that but I quickly droped down to 4 mags because like another poster said it was like having a cynderblock on my leg when I had to move quickly.
8/25/2007 8:15:24 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
The current issue of SWAT ( September ) has an artical called Pre-training Equipment Issues that goes over this


Even though it is SWAT magazine, I'm curious to see what they said about leg rigs.
I am guessing they raved about them, because most SWAT duty is confined to a block or two, and the downsides of this setup aren't surfacing as much.
8/25/2007 12:19:43 PM EDT
[#13]
sic_ness

Even though it is SWAT magazine, I'm curious to see what they said about leg rigs.
I am guessing they raved about them, because most SWAT duty is confined to a block or two, and the downsides of this setup aren't surfacing as much.


Instead of guessing or ASSuming how they rated them.. maybe you should READ the article...... and maybe look at the author who penned the article.

It's assumptions  and guesses  like that, that make the internet a double edged sword of good/bad info,,,,,
8/25/2007 10:09:19 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The current issue of SWAT ( September ) has an artical called Pre-training Equipment Issues that goes over this


Even though it is SWAT magazine, I'm curious to see what they said about leg rigs.
I am guessing they raved about them, because most SWAT duty is confined to a block or two, and the downsides of this setup aren't surfacing as much.


By Patrick A. Rogers: Sub Loads ( Leg Rigs ) may not be the answer.  Sub loads are often an apparent and simple solution to carrying additional M4 mags. The problem with sub loads is that people have a tendency to over load them or purchase ones that accept a lot of magazines ( think four here ). This may be fine when you are profiling in front of the mirror and racking up imaginary CDI points, but the reality of movement will quickly negate any usefulness.

This should be readily apparent, but many will gloss over certain deficiencies in order to justify the purchase of a sub load.  An overloaded sub load will drag your war belt down, slide around the circumference of your leg and bang  against your knee when moving.  If you are concerned with that nylon tumor banging around your leg, you are probably not paying attention to the fight.

If you must use a sub load, consider limiting it to two M4 magazines.

   


not much raving there

even though its called SWAT, there is very little police stuff in it, as it has more survival info then must 'regular' gun mags.

as a matter of fact the last issue had a long anti Swat ( police ) artical in it.
8/26/2007 6:31:47 AM EDT
[#15]
Noted.
I usually avoid gun rags for a variety of reasons. At least online you can talk to some BTDT types. As always, you take it with a grain of salt. Anyone who believes my post (or anyone else's) full-heartedly, should get their head checked.
I make it a point to state "it works for me" or "in my opinion" because it would be terribly presumptuous of me to state my experience as a biblical fact for everyone else to believe, right?
8/26/2007 7:15:26 AM EDT
[#16]
This is an interesting conversation...

If anyone ever had to lug a promask around like we did for the longest time you'd understand why it becomes a PITA.

I would encourage folks to think about why sub-loads were devised in the first place. With heavier armor vest/carriers and the need for a wider range of torso protection, folks realized that waist level pouches became non-viable. Rookies and newbies are the ones with the "calf holsters/pouches) and those who have actually had to move with their gear are the ones with them set in a more appropriate place, e.g. as close to the waist as possible.

Now as for carrying mags on the weak side in a subload... hmm. Well if you're not mounting and dismounting a vehicle or moving a fair bit and or going prone - that leaves range bunnies pretty much - then sure, go for it. But I sure hate to see someone waste their money on gear they just don't need because they some some uber stud in some movie doing it.

Several folks have noted that it is indeed like adding a cinder block to your leg.. take that advice or learn the lesson yourself.

Racks or non-armor bearing vests are a far better solution, but again folks over do it and look like a fricken weeble waable  when they go prone or even take a knee.

The only reason I could justify a weak side subload with ammo would be for Gun Games/comps. Even then going with more than 2 mags isn't really needed.

All of that is my not so humble opinion, take it for what value you find and have fun anyway, after all it's your money.
8/26/2007 8:24:15 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
This is an interesting conversation...

If anyone ever had to lug a promask around like we did for the longest time you'd understand why it becomes a PITA.

I would encourage folks to think about why sub-loads were devised in the first place. With heavier armor vest/carriers and the need for a wider range of torso protection, folks realized that waist level pouches became non-viable. Rookies and newbies are the ones with the "calf holsters/pouches) and those who have actually had to move with their gear are the ones with them set in a more appropriate place, e.g. as close to the waist as possible.

Now as for carrying mags on the weak side in a subload... hmm. Well if you're not mounting and dismounting a vehicle or moving a fair bit and or going prone - that leaves range bunnies pretty much - then sure, go for it. But I sure hate to see someone waste their money on gear they just don't need because they some some uber stud in some movie doing it.

Several folks have noted that it is indeed like adding a cinder block to your leg.. take that advice or learn the lesson yourself.

Racks or non-armor bearing vests are a far better solution, but again folks over do it and look like a fricken weeble waable  when they go prone or even take a knee.

The only reason I could justify a weak side subload with ammo would be for Gun Games/comps. Even then going with more than 2 mags isn't really needed.

All of that is my not so humble opinion, take it for what value you find and have fun anyway, after all it's your money.


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