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7/13/2007 8:29:41 PM EDT
I am not sure where to post this so sorry if this is the wrong spot.I was wondering which work better.The original magpul slip on version or the magpul ranger floor plates?
7/13/2007 8:36:06 PM EDT
[#1]
Instead of putting lipstick on a pig, get PMAGs...

Trust me.
7/14/2007 12:39:29 AM EDT
[#2]
The Mag forum might be the better place to ask......but since you did, it depends on how you want to extract them.

ranger plates you kind of 'pinch' between thumb and index finger and pull out.

original magpulls you would just 'hook' with index finger.

you can also make poor mans ranger plates by putting the originals of sideways.
the magpul webpage has a pdf download of the instructions which shows and explains all this better.
7/14/2007 1:06:07 AM EDT
[#3]
I really like the idea of the ranger plates but the originals just work better for me.

Buy (or preferably borrow)  one or two of each and practice with them a bit.
7/14/2007 6:06:33 AM EDT
[#4]
I started with the originals, but I put them on sideways because that worked better for my use.  The external gripping surface worked great for pulling on mags in the weapon, especially when your hands were covered in mud, snot, blood, water, or whatever.  I also liked them in the giant 3 mag pouches that were on my chest rig that had a relatively loose fit and full velcro flap covers.
I've gone to a chest rig and PC that use the open top bungee retainers, and I think I'm going to like the Ranger plates better in the setting.  The plates work a little better on the bungie retainers, and don't suspend the mags off the bottom of the mag carrier like the slipover originals do.  It's not a real functionality issue, but I like the mags sitting a little lower and fully engaged in the mag pocket.  
The only thing I haven't gotten used to yet is the way that there is no grip surface on the outside of the mag that can be engaged by sliding the hand down the mag body.  The plate does have what might actually be a more positive engagement with the way the "handle" is made, but it is inside the limits of the mag if you can understand what I'm trying to say.  I think with some more work I can definately get used to them.
I'll keep my original pulls for my older chest rig and flap-type pouches, but I'll be ordering more plates for my open top carriers.
7/14/2007 6:51:48 PM EDT
[#5]
Cool thanks for the input.I also have a chest rig with bungee cord keepers for retainers so I will try the ranger plates.
7/14/2007 8:44:27 PM EDT
[#6]
How about DIY with Zip Ties and 550 Cord. For the price of 3 Magpuls you can do about 30 mags.

Karsten
7/14/2007 8:45:55 PM EDT
[#7]
How about DIY with Zip Ties and 550 Cord. For the price of 3 Magpuls you can do about 30 mags.

Karsten
7/15/2007 7:36:19 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
How about DIY with Zip Ties and 550 Cord. For the price of 3 Magpuls you can do about 30 mags.

Karsten


Yup

I just don't understand the magpul infatuation.(as in the magazine magpuls...I love their CTR and am curious about their UBR)


Quoted:
Instead of putting lipstick on a pig, get PMAGs...

Trust me.


This post made me laugh out loud. All you have to do is read the PMAG thread and see that USGIs are one spectacular product.
7/15/2007 10:10:31 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
I just don't understand the magpul infatuation.(as in the magazine magpuls...I love their CTR and am curious about their UBR)

No bulged floorplates from wedging the zipties under them, which means I don't have to worry about broken floorplate retainer lips.  Padding on the floor of the magazine so I don't have to worry about having my mag taking a dump all over the pavement when it drops free with rounds still in it.  Easily gripped texture.  Ability to apply more force to extract stuck mags from the well without worrying about pulling the floorplate off of the mag.  No fishing for the loop in just the right way.
But that's my personal take.
ETA:  And I'd rather pass on the PMAGs for now.
7/15/2007 10:51:17 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I just don't understand the magpul infatuation.(as in the magazine magpuls...I love their CTR and am curious about their UBR)

No bulged floorplates from wedging the zipties under them, which means I don't have to worry about broken floorplate retainer lips.  Padding on the floor of the magazine so I don't have to worry about having my mag taking a dump all over the pavement when it drops free with rounds still in it.  Easily gripped texture.  Ability to apply more force to extract stuck mags from the well without worrying about pulling the floorplate off of the mag.  No fishing for the loop in just the right way.
But that's my personal take.
ETA:  And I'd rather pass on the PMAGs for now.


I don't wedge junk under my floor plates either. I tie knots in the end of the paracord, lay the cord along the groove in the side of the mag and wrap a couple of revolutions of black duct tape around the mag. Nothing inside the magazine, nothing under the floorplate, and no worry of bending the floorplate if you have to pull hard.

I see the point about having extra padding on the bottom of the mag incase it drops on pavement or rocks. ...but then floor plates are easily and cheaply replaced and if the mag is empty when I drop it it's more than likely fulfilled it's job for that day.

If it makes you happy, do it. I just haven't been able to get with it.
7/15/2007 11:33:41 AM EDT
[#11]
I would rather not add the extra girth or length to my mags as it interfere's with them fitting in standard issue mag pouches and adds length to the magazine when going prone ( even though by only an inch ). The paracord/duct tape method without taking off the baseplate method works for me. Just my 2 cents though, use what works for you.

I'll pass on the P-Mags too for now.

Full-Auto
7/15/2007 12:42:04 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
I don't wedge junk under my floor plates either. I tie knots in the end of the paracord, lay the cord along the groove in the side of the mag and wrap a couple of revolutions of black duct tape around the mag. Nothing inside the magazine, nothing under the floorplate, and no worry of bending the floorplate if you have to pull hard.

I used to do that.  And the 550 with no zipties, and just tabs of tape.  I didn't like the way the tape lost adhesiveness or ended up sliming  everything, or mags sticking together.  The magpuls solve those issues.


I see the point about having extra padding on the bottom of the mag incase it drops on pavement or rocks. ...but then floor plates are easily and cheaply replaced

Not in the middle of a course or a fight.  And dropping on the hardtop can also beat the hell out of the retaining lips, which result in needing a new mag body.  Since we've already gone through AWBI and number 2 might be coming, I'd rather not have to rely on a limited number of high-cost mag replacement parts, and I'd rather not buy anything on letterhead.

and if the mag is empty when I drop it it's more than likely fulfilled it's job for that day.

In a fight, probably.  But in training, at the range, or during a course probably not.  And that is where gear gets beat to hell in short order a lot of times.
If it makes you happy, do it. I just haven't been able to get with it.
I understand;  not everybody sees the need.  Some just may not understand what they do completely.
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