Armory Sponsor
Posted: 2/4/2007 3:38:55 PM EDT
|
www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123017545 Just thought I would post it and hear all the negative comments from the war hardened keyboard commandos! |
|
I've been in some pretty intense internet combat, so I naturally have an opinion. I think all the services should have the same pattern (like they did with BDUs). The Marines currently have the best. I don't see anything wrong with this new Air Force uniform though. ETA: It is dificult to see what the colors are in this little photo. I hope they didn't choose ACU colors. |
You guys could try reading TFA... ![]() "The new uniform design is a pixilated tiger stripe with four soft earth tones consisting of tan, grey, green and blue. The ABU will have a permanent crease and will be offered in 50-50 nylon-cotton blend permanent press fabric eliminating the need for winter and summer weight uniforms. " |
I agree. Service dress is where it's understandable to be different. Concerning the new ABU, I like it. I'm still keeping my BDUs though! |
I agree. Everyone should wear MARPAT. It would make things A LOT cheaper on us tax payers, MARPAT works, just take out the EGA and add in little symbols for the other services. I hate this metro sexual I'm special, you're special, we're all just a bunch of special fuckers. When I was active duty you were part of a team, not some special individual Army of One B.S. |
| I think the idea of everyone having their own uniforms certainly does nothing for OPSEC (Bad guy commando says, "Look over there, three AF guys, two Army guys, and a Marine--we should report this to someone."). That said, I think the ACU really is the best uniform out of the three (four when the Navy gets its new uniform), but I am not entirely sold on the ACU camouflage yet. Give it 10 years and we will all probably be back in OD again with khaki dress uniforms. What's old is new again. |
I believe the primary intent *IS* that exactly (We're special, not metrosexuality). Just like when the Army began issuing the black beret as part of the dress-kit, it's intent is to convey the sense of being part of an elite unit. |
| AF got rid of the blue in the ABU after quite of bit of service member consternation. Colors are the same as in the ACU. The best thing about the new uniform will be the lower maintenance (wash and wear, no ironing, etc). Unfortunately, a number of other things that would have been good on this uniform were not incorporated (manchurian collar, arm lets on the back shoulders, arm pockets, etc) |
Retaining the BDU style collar is my biggest gripe about the upcoming ABU. I welcomed the rounded collar on the USMC and Army jackets. The blazer/dress shirt collar looks goofy on a jacket to be worn in combat. Also, the ABUs that I saw last year in the sandbox were lighter in color like the ACU. Hopefully the news image shown will be closer to the production model to avoid the same complaints that the ACU gets. |
Agreed - that scheme would be better for my area better than anything I've seen going right now. |
From the AF web page linked at the top of this page:
Yes, the AF canned the idea of the blue/grey non-pixilated tiger stripe pattern. However, the new-new pattern does have blue in it. Yes, the uniform will be more comfortable and easy to maintain. What I don’t understand is why we couldn’t have an effective camouflage pattern as well? The AF could have easily made a uniform that was distinctive, had all the new/neat features, and provided good camouflage properties. Instead we end up with this crap. What in the world is this uniform suppose to camouflage us from? According to military moron’s web page when the USMC designed their new uniform one of their primary requirements was that the new uniform help save Marine lives. When the AF designed our new uniform our only requirement was to look distinctive and have permanent creases. The good news for me is that being aircrew I will not have to wear that uniform while deployed. Heaven forbid I ever find myself in a survival situation I will have camouflage appropriate to the environment, either AF provided or private purchase. Because if I have to jump out of my plane I doubt there will be any uniform Nazis around. I’ve talked to combat controllers, SERE instructors, and combat WX that were involved in the wear test. The AF did not listen to their feedback. They wanted sleeve pockets, no lower pockets on the front of the uniform, slanted front pockets, and an effective camo pattern. What we got were pen pockets on the lower arm, and pockets within pockets within pockets. The pocket placement makes no sense when wearing body armor, or while wearing field gear. I saw the SERE guys wearing it in the field and it stood out like a neon sign in the woods. Look here! Shoot ME! However, I guess that since more than 95% of the AF will never leave the safe comfort of their air conditioned office, or nice safe airbase defended by hundreds of soldiers, this uniform is perfect. This uniform screams AF because it emphasizes our corporate non-combat mentality. It is more suited being worn in the MPF, or at a MAJCOM HQ than while on convoy duty, or in any of the battlefield airman career fields. |
|
I read a public apology by Tiger Stripe Productions, who developed the uniform, directed to all Air Force men and women explaining that the uniform was the result of input from the AF leadership and to please not hold them responsible. I wish the Army would apologize for the ACU |
Haha I read that as well. Kinda funny when they ask for feedback from the troops, then ignore it. Maybe instead of using the polls from the combat arms guys they listened to the tech school trainees instead who said that they were tired of ironing, and that the woodland pattern was so "1995". |
The USAF (I'm sorry for saying this) has the worse taste in uniforms anyways. The dress uniform has undergone more changes than any other service uniform and with each new change they mess it up more. The late 1950 and 1960 USAF uniforms looked pretty damn good and lately they morph so many times I couldn't tell you what they look like now. Now they screw you guys over with horrible looking camo patterns. As if it wasn't bad enough you guys were using hand me downs from the Marines and Army. The USAF must have some weird gay guy doing their uniform consulting. |
Anyone have a higher resolution version of that photo? |
Here's the note from Tiger Stripe Products:
Tiger Stripes Products page It's about half way down on the right in a yellow box. |
I was a Law Enforcement Specialist in the USAF from 83-88 and Cops pretty much were the only folks that wore BDU's. EXCEPT for when I went to Osan AB, ROK, every damn person there was wearing them. Never could understand why a clerk needed to wear cammies. No disrespect to clerks who do not carry a weapon daily. But I agree that all the branches of the Military need to wear the SAME UNIFORMS!!! |
I looked for awhile with no results but I did find different angles and even a different pattern altogether. just google it |
Oh yeah, I am just loving the "Van Damme-oflage" Maybe we can get Steven Segal, Van Damme and Chuck Norris all wearing this in their next stright to video bargin bin movie and it will be cool then! No, in all seriousness though, who thought up this crap? Who ever sees shadows running horizontally in nature? This is why tiger stripes be it in their original guise or this reincatnated nightmare have always had problems blending in. Of course this has been overlooked in this latest adventure of Chair Force follies! |
Armory Sponsor



