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Posted: 1/28/2007 11:09:04 AM EDT
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Hello all, just purchased one of these pouches online, looking to install this pouch onto my molle back pack. I seem to have alot of first aid items including blood clot, also other pouches mounted in different locations, from vest,first line belt and now on my back pack,once pouch get here. Do you guys think a surgical kit might come in handy? Has anyone here used the molle 2 first aid pouch? they say it is current issue.  TG |
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it is an empty pocket - toothed zipper nothing more nothing less, four of those compose the CMVS vest and 4 more attach to exterior of the MOLLE aid bag Are you qualified to use a surgical kit? Do you mean Quikclot? where do you have it that it would be of most use? what else do you have in addition to the hemostatic agent? |
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Dunno if a surgical kit would serve any purpose, other than removing a bullet.(if possible) First aid, I usely just carry a basic kit, but recently came into a large assortment of stuff, havent sorted through it all yet. Have to get a lists going of my new inventory, most of the stuff is for wounds, even chest wounds. TG |
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I wouldnt go as far as a full blown surgical kit. A set of foreceps (sp) some steri strips and some of that super glue type liquid band aid stuff would be a good (and small) compromise. I also carry some small sterilized scalpel type blades. This is no way implies that I do any type of surgery but everything above I have used and came in real handy for minor stuff. |
| I have a MOLLE medic pouch like that. I put my first aid supplies into a rubbermaid food storage container (for waterproofing and rigidity), and put that into the pouch. The pouch is on the MOLLE waistbelt I have retrofitted onto my ALICE frame. It fits and packs well, but I don't have any good AARs for it yet. |
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For general use I only carry tweezer (forceps), bandage scissors, hemostats, and a good multi tool. Haven't run into anything in the civilian world yet that has required me to use any advanced skills before EMS can respond. Good blow out kit: (IFAK) latex gloves 2 pr. alcohol wipes 2x2 gauze pads 4x4 gauze pads 1" wide medical tape 1 kerlex (roller gauze) 1 2" wide ace bandge assorted bandaids above mentioned tools 1 Quik-clot I also have a large M5 medic bag loaded out for bear, but I also have the training and experience to use it. |
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they are special little needles. They already have the suture materiel attached so its not like threading a needle for sewing. Thats why i recommend the steri strips. They seal the cut just like stitches would until it heals. No stitches to remove, just take off the strip. |
You mean to tell me, if we was out in the field during a shtf situation, and you got shot in the leg or arm, you rather develope gain green and allow someone to saw or chop off one of your limbs??   Never know.  TG |
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you get shot in a shtf situation you're probably going to want to make peace with whatever maker you believe in because chances are you're not going to make it, and if you do it's going to be VERY painful...so best to pray for pain relief. Say you've go the surgical kit...how many of you have ever tried to actually cut into yourself to dig something out? I've stitched myself back together twice, I really don't want to repeat it. The first time it was my elbow, the second time was from falling while climbing and cutting my arm open. I've had to dig splinters out of my hands before and have cut planters warts off of my feet. It's not that easy to cut into yourself. You might say if it needs to be done you'll do it, just imagine the pain you're in from a bullet being inside you, add onto that the pain from having to cut yourself open and pull a bullet out. You have to do all of that and stay conscious the whole time and stitch yourself back together before you lose to much blood and pass out and die from blood loss. Not to mention the possibility of infection setting in if you don't clean the wound out well enough. Granted it will probably set in anyways if you left the bullet in you, but you have to think about this as well. Once you get an infection and you're all lone wolf SHTF hiding from the zombies, where are you going to get antibiotics and everything you need to keep the infection from incapacitating you or worse yet killing you? Just something more to think about. I don't know about you but if you're trying to hide out keeping a low profile is first and foremost, and up there would be trying to link up with other people to make survival easier. Some of you may be able to do it, heck that one guy in CO cut his arm off with a pocket knife...that takes some big ones. All I'm saying is realistically I know I probably wouldn't be able to do it to myself. -Mike |
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My wife had infection, they open her up & didnt bother sewing here back up,sent her home that way, I had to flush it severial times daily and apply fresh bandages. Had to pack a whole roll of galls, over time, I had to use less galls, learned how to cleaned and packed wound, thought this might come in handy some day. Home care, said I did a excellent job. I've pulled my own teeth, also doctored my head after going through a windsheild, also removed metal that poked in to my skin, had to fish it out. I think I can wing it in some situations, but buddy up is the best way. Also have a snake kit, havent had to use it yet. TG |
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If an artery or vein is severed, all the stitches in the world aren't going to save you. It's fine to have a surgical kit, just recognize your own limitations. If one of your party is hit in an important vein or artery, or a vital organ, there's probably not much you can do for him without a qualified surgeon and serious medical equipment, not a few instruments. Sutures, maybe a hemostat, scalpel, tweezers, stuff like that. Some trauma stuff (14g catheter, chest seal / occlusive, some burn cream, tourniquets), and antibiotics. Even the basics really require some training to be familiar with. |
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