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Posted: 4/1/2020 7:54:02 AM EDT
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I use a 6" ruler/machinist square as a wrench.
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Posted: 4/1/2020 11:06:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well we have a pile of parts now. The only thing I can't figure out how to get the mag spring out, and which mag spring to replace it are you guys using and how to get the fore arm off the action bars. It is split all the way down. not sure if it is salvageable. And man what did the Malaysians have against the safeties on these things anyway? I wish I would have bought one for myself now. It is going to be a fun restoration for the boy and Ihttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/230179/D958EC7E-63D0-4E2C-99B0-1383E7E12C8C_jpe-1344057.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/230179/6FFD8748-1FFA-4142-A253-C23812177492_jpe-1344058.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/230179/4B1901C8-D552-4966-BF9E-4AC4B5AA8B32_jpe-1344060.JPG My first one had a split in the handguard like that and they had repaired it with hot glue it looked like. Worked fine and is still going. You can get a new grip from Numerich just like the ones that came on them. Get the oiled finish. I did on my second one. This is the replacement grip. 
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Posted: 4/1/2020 11:23:22 AM EDT
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I cheated and got one that was "cleaned up" by a dealer in FL. Said he didn't get it from Centerfire, so maybe it was directly from the importer.
No serious pitting, just some fine pinhole stuff. Steel was cold blued I think, and the stocks had some varnish schlocked on. That will be buffed out to reduce the shine. The buttpad is hard as a rock so I'm waiting until Mossberg gets some more back in stock. 
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Posted: 4/1/2020 11:34:05 AM EDT
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Wolff on the mag spring
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Posted: 4/1/2020 12:15:12 PM EDT
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 Left one was missing the front sling swivel. I found one in my junk for a .22 that fit. Threw an old leather sling on Ive had for years. Bayonet wont lock on either gun.  One on right has new stock and fore grip. |
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Posted: 4/1/2020 1:04:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://i.imgur.com/UYPI75f.jpg Left one was missing the front sling swivel. I found one in my junk for a .22 that fit. Threw an old leather sling on Ive had for years. Bayonet wont lock on either gun. https://i.imgur.com/PvdZw81.jpg One on right has new stock and fore grip. Unless my eyes deceive me, the new wood is slightly different from the original as far as shape goes. |
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Posted: 4/1/2020 1:09:44 PM EDT
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Yeah, it looks like the new one doesn't have the fluting.
But if mine was roached out I'd buy a new one also. |
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Posted: 4/1/2020 3:45:17 PM EDT
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Dunno, looks the same to me. I see fluting on both forearms. Color is different; but, it could be my aging eyes ??
Regards Rod |
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Posted: 4/1/2020 4:21:50 PM EDT
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They are pretty much the same. The dirty wood makes the grooves look deep.
The back edge has more of a slight curve than the newer one. 
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Posted: 4/1/2020 4:32:34 PM EDT
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I was talking about the area right behind the wrist of the stock.
 It's quite pronounced on my picture.
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Posted: 4/2/2020 12:18:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was talking about the area right behind the wrist of the stock. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/91277/500_ATP_stock-1345557.jpg It's quite pronounced on my picture. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/91277/500ATP_JPG-1345042.jpg That is because its a commercial stock with no checkering. It has a thinner grip also like the commercial 500s. It was only $27 complete with the butt pad. |
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Posted: 4/2/2020 12:18:43 AM EDT
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I also put a bigger tactical safety button on the second one.
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Posted: 4/2/2020 1:59:42 AM EDT
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To be clear I wasn't criticizing, just trying to expand my knowledge base. It seems if you want to keep it 100% like original you have to get vintage wood.
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Posted: 4/2/2020 3:15:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To be clear I wasn't criticizing, just trying to expand my knowledge base. It seems if you want to keep it 100% like original you have to get vintage wood. No problem. I almost put synthetic stocks on it but couldnt find a good deal on the butt stock. |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 5:22:01 PM EDT
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 To close the thread, here’s the shotgun. I disassembled as far as I could, put the wood in the dishwasher, and bought a new buttpad and safety from Numrich. The safety from a 500 doesn’t work, I was lucky to have saved the original safety block, and works. The stock has some cracks, if I wanted to really run the shotgun hard, I’d replace it. But, it cycles, shoots, and has a bayonet lug. |
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Posted: 4/12/2020 1:28:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/119894/A3824472-37DA-4F46-ADC4-B9E8E20EDA28-1362674.jpg To close the thread, here’s the shotgun. I disassembled as far as I could, put the wood in the dishwasher, and bought a new buttpad and safety from Numrich. The safety from a 500 doesn’t work, I was lucky to have saved the original safety block, and works. The stock has some cracks, if I wanted to really run the shotgun hard, I’d replace it. But, it cycles, shoots, and has a bayonet lug. If only they could speak. It's been thoroughly used and seen better days. Fortunately it's now in your hands. 
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Posted: 4/13/2020 2:54:12 AM EDT
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Are there any places other than brownells selling appropriate parts at reasonable prices? I placed a large order with Numrich just to find out they shuttered their doors due to NY restrictions.
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Posted: 4/13/2020 7:55:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are there any places other than brownells selling appropriate parts at reasonable prices? I placed a large order with Numrich just to find out they shuttered their doors due to NY restrictions. Mossberg Midwest Gun Works |
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Posted: 4/13/2020 8:43:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/16/2020 6:28:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are there any places other than brownells selling appropriate parts at reasonable prices? I placed a large order with Numrich just to find out they shuttered their doors due to NY restrictions. I got some of my stuff from Midwayusa. I didnt have any problems with new 500 safetys fitting. I replaced both of mine. One I replaced the block and all new. |
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Posted: 4/16/2020 8:20:36 PM EDT
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I just ordered two of the $119 gunsmith specials they sent out in their email. Hopefully their shipping isn’t horribly slow with all this virus crap. I’d be lying if I said I didn’t order them because they have a bayonet lug
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Posted: 4/16/2020 9:21:52 PM EDT
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All HD shotguns should take bayonets.
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Posted: 4/17/2020 5:41:08 PM EDT
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I regret not grabbing one of these. Especially after seeing your guys finished products. I love beater/project guns. Every solid ol' gun that's brought back into good working order makes the world a little better place. Plus, I don't have a shotty that accepts bayonets and that just doesn't sit right with me.
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Posted: 4/17/2020 8:23:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I got some of my stuff from Midwayusa. I didnt have any problems with new 500 safetys fitting. I replaced both of mine. One I replaced the block and all new. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Are there any places other than brownells selling appropriate parts at reasonable prices? I placed a large order with Numrich just to find out they shuttered their doors due to NY restrictions. I got some of my stuff from Midwayusa. I didnt have any problems with new 500 safetys fitting. I replaced both of mine. One I replaced the block and all new. I’ll go downstairs and take a picture of the safety I was sent. Not blaming anyone, let’s see what you think... |
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Posted: 4/17/2020 9:03:56 PM EDT
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They've started showing up on gunbroker. That's were I got mine.
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Posted: 4/17/2020 10:05:25 PM EDT
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Makes me sad i missed this. I love to tinker with things for a good price
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Posted: 4/18/2020 5:39:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Makes me sad i missed this. I love to tinker with things for a good price They got more in last week. $119.00 each. |
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Posted: 4/18/2020 6:04:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They got more in last week. $119.00 each. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Makes me sad i missed this. I love to tinker with things for a good price They got more in last week. $119.00 each. Good thing I didn't see that. I would have added shotgun number 7 to my collection.  |
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Posted: 4/18/2020 8:46:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good thing I didn't see that. I would have added shotgun number 7 to my collection. I would have jumped at $119. Dang email went to spam and I didn't see it until they were sold out 
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Posted: 4/18/2020 12:11:53 PM EDT
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Here’s a photo of the new 500 safety block that didn’t fit.
 The old block was rattling around in the receiver, thought I’d go with all new safety, but the new safety wouldn’t disengage |
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Posted: 4/18/2020 3:11:31 PM EDT
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Doing some looking
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Posted: 4/18/2020 9:36:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here’s a photo of the new 500 safety block that didn’t fit. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/119894/817084D7-A5A9-4CC2-8636-AC171AB30FEC-1373434.jpg The old block was rattling around in the receiver, thought I’d go with all new safety, but the new safety wouldn’t disengage I had this picture of my first Mossbergs safety. 
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Posted: 4/19/2020 4:13:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat’s the same one that was in mine. If you look close, you can see that it’s different than the one in my picture. |
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Posted: 4/19/2020 4:49:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s the same one that was in mine. If you look close, you can see that it’s different than the one in my picture. Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s the same one that was in mine. If you look close, you can see that it’s different than the one in my picture. I've found that part comes in 3 different shapes and at least one does not interchange with the other.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/21/2020 2:29:03 PM EDT
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Well they had two of the $149 ones in stock this morning for whatever reason. I pulled the trigger on one. Has anyone gotten one of the $119 versions in yet? Wonder what the difference is in real life?
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Posted: 4/21/2020 2:49:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well they had two of the $149 ones in stock this morning for whatever reason. I pulled the trigger on one. Has anyone gotten one of the $119 versions in yet? Wonder what the difference is in real life? Well my $149 shotgun came with a dead moth in the receiver. Bet the $119 ones don't come with that. 
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Posted: 4/21/2020 3:12:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well my $149 shotgun came with a dead moth in the receiver. Bet the $119 ones don't come with that. Well there's that and $30 I guess. Edit: I compared the descriptions and it says trigger housing may be cracked or broken on the $119 version. |
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Posted: 4/21/2020 6:28:18 PM EDT
[#38]
Hell there's 10+ in stock of the $119 versions that weren't showing when I ordered mine this morning
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Posted: 4/21/2020 8:15:34 PM EDT
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I'd like to upgrade mine to a 590 metal one.
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Posted: 4/21/2020 10:12:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hell there's 10+ in stock of the $119 versions that weren't showing when I ordered mine this morning That was a rare and exotic Malaysian moth worth $15 at wholesale, $30 retail.  Aaaand I wish I had not seen that they have $119 shotguns in stock. I happen to have a homeless 500 trigger group. |
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Posted: 4/21/2020 11:58:23 PM EDT
[#41]
I'm fighting the urge to get a $119 version to see which is better.
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Posted: 4/22/2020 12:59:36 AM EDT
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Like to see pics of the $119 ones when you guys get one.
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Posted: 4/22/2020 1:06:40 PM EDT
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How long to they take ship normally and right now? I ordered on the 16th, haven't heard anything.
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Posted: 4/22/2020 3:20:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How long to they take ship normally and right now? I ordered on the 16th, haven't heard anything. On their website they say they're at least 7 days behind on shipping because of the panic buying. |
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Posted: 4/22/2020 7:15:01 PM EDT
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Pics from my FFL. They came in Monday, but I haven’t been able to pick them up yet.
 Attached File |
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Posted: 4/22/2020 8:23:03 PM EDT
[#46]
I got mine today. The butt stock is broken completely and dangling off the back of the receiver by the mounting bolt. The safety is broken like others. And the trigger housing is broken and stripped of the trigger parts and it. The receiver, magazine tube, extension, and barrel has the bead sight and are salvageable. I will see how much it will cost to resurrect this pile of parts and maybe make a proper shotgun out of it. stay tuned.
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:05:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I got mine today. The butt stock is broken completely and dangling off the back of the receiver by the mounting bolt. The safety is broken like others. And the trigger housing is broken and stripped of the trigger parts and it. The receiver, magazine tube, extension, and barrel has the bead sight and are salvageable. I will see how much it will cost to resurrect this pile of parts and maybe make a proper shotgun out of it. stay tuned. Was yours a $119 or $149 one? |
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:52:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I got mine today. The butt stock is broken completely and dangling off the back of the receiver by the mounting bolt. The safety is broken like others. And the trigger housing is broken and stripped of the trigger parts and it. The receiver, magazine tube, extension, and barrel has the bead sight and are salvageable. I will see how much it will cost to resurrect this pile of parts and maybe make a proper shotgun out of it. stay tuned. Don’t get discouraged, watch YouTube, salvage what you can, and post pictures if you can. I learned lots about shotguns with my project, that’s worth the price. |
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Posted: 4/22/2020 10:05:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I got mine today. The butt stock is broken completely and dangling off the back of the receiver by the mounting bolt. The safety is broken like others. And the trigger housing is broken and stripped of the trigger parts and it. The receiver, magazine tube, extension, and barrel has the bead sight and are salvageable. I will see how much it will cost to resurrect this pile of parts and maybe make a proper shotgun out of it. stay tuned. The stock will be cheap and easy to replace as will the safety. Not sure about the trigger pack Are you able to post some pics? |
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Posted: 4/23/2020 11:27:28 AM EDT
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Well shit, I saw they had some of the $119 ones in stock. Order placed (I NEEDED a bayonet host). Depending on how bad it is, I'll replace the missing parts, clean it up, and shoot it. Or do a full refinish if required. Either way, I'm gunna have fun doing it.
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