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Posted: 5/15/2018 11:04:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You've been a member here since 2001 and just learned of Gabe Suarez???? Hall of Shame douchebags like Suarez, Yeager, Daryl Bolke, Mickey Berger (Mick Strider), Duane Dwyer, John Willis, etc used to make weekly headlines for their Tomfuckery! We are slipping as a community and need to keep these shitbags antics up to date for unsuspecting members. S/F Al It's about as well known as somebody selling 20% of our uranium production and shipping it to Iran with planeloads of cash totaling 1.7 billion. You hear anything about that? Arkancide? EO's authorizing military tribunals and GTMO expanding to hold 13,000 while the Federal Court system now has 30,000 sealed indictments and they are ready to release? Some carjacker turned knifemaker is effing insignificant in comparison. Get some perspective. |
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Posted: 5/16/2018 2:22:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only on forums. It's about as well known as somebody selling 20% of our uranium production and shipping it to Iran with planeloads of cash totaling 1.7 billion. You hear anything about that? Arkancide? EO's authorizing military tribunals and GTMO expanding to hold 13,000 while the Federal Court system now has 30,000 sealed indictments and they are ready to release? Some carjacker turned knifemaker is effing insignificant in comparison. Get some perspective. You brought up a bunch of valid factual info. The kind of topics discussed in GD or other sites dedicated to that type of information flow. So yeah, relative here because one of those turd's shitty workmanship was showcased in this thread. Any future customers of said turd might have learned a valuable monetary lesson by the discussion and experience shared. Am I missing something? Did you just want to rant? Confused. S/F Al |
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Posted: 5/16/2018 10:58:50 AM EDT
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Why no post pics on the pirate board? Hilarity would follow.
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Posted: 5/16/2018 8:49:36 PM EDT
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Why no post pics on the pirate board? Hilarity would follow. S/F Al |
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Posted: 5/17/2018 10:23:17 AM EDT
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I'm lost dude. What is the Pirate Board? S/F Al Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why no post pics on the pirate board? Hilarity would follow. S/F Al 
Warrior Talk(Gabe's forums) Last time I looked over there he was calling himself a modern day pirate. I think now he's a modern day Viking. 
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Posted: 5/17/2018 10:43:14 AM EDT
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Warrior Talk(Gabe's forums) Last time I looked over there he was calling himself a modern day pirate. I think now he's a modern day Viking.  Why am I not surprised?
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Posted: 5/17/2018 12:43:25 PM EDT
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Warrior Talk(Gabe's forums) Last time I looked over there he was calling himself a modern day pirate. I think now he's a modern day Viking. Modern Day Butt Pirate! S/F Al |
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Posted: 5/18/2018 5:32:04 PM EDT
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Just picked up the DM version. The current plan is to file a Form 1 to SBS it; put a 10” MCS barrel and MCS forend on it and have my local gunsmith cut the “mag tube” down to the length of the barrel. Then add a high tube stock adapter. And maybe a Salvo
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Posted: 5/18/2018 11:43:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Just picked up the DM version. The current plan is to file a Form 1 to SBS it; put a 10” MCS barrel and MCS forend on it and have my local gunsmith cut the “mag tube” down to the length of the barrel. Then add a high tube stock adapter. And maybe a Salvo https://i.imgur.com/DI6zlaJ.jpg I just rationalized cutting up a new laminate stock and forend because I dislike the plastic and now I see a detachable magazine is available...I'n so screwed. |
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Posted: 5/19/2018 2:20:46 AM EDT
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Ive been waiting on the DM and right now I cant afford it.
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Posted: 5/19/2018 4:53:33 AM EDT
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I've been reading that the magazines are not as robust as Mossbergs
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Posted: 5/19/2018 10:28:35 AM EDT
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Detachable mag version also will negate the need for the Tacticool side saddle upgrade.
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Posted: 5/19/2018 11:48:10 AM EDT
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I've been reading that the magazines are not as robust as Mossbergs Have you read anything about the Black Aces magazines? |
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Posted: 5/19/2018 2:24:25 PM EDT
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I've been reading that the magazines are not as robust as Mossbergs |
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Posted: 5/19/2018 3:03:48 PM EDT
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Ive read the same, its just the Mossberg ones are dumb expensive. Have you read anything about the Black Aces magazines? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've been reading that the magazines are not as robust as Mossbergs Have you read anything about the Black Aces magazines? |
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Posted: 5/19/2018 7:52:37 PM EDT
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The Magpul handstop did not work out at all for me. It changed the grip angles on the forend and the stops, regardless of which way you put them, pulled your hand away from the forend while firing.
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Posted: 5/20/2018 4:57:46 AM EDT
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The Magpul handstop did not work out at all for me. It changed the grip angles on the forend and the stops, regardless of which way you put them, pulled your hand away from the forend while firing. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:12:30 AM EDT
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if you are looking for a strap to help control recoil, a comment on my Mossberg addition...after watching the Youtube video of the installation of a commercial strap kit, I built a prototype similar using 550 cord around the grip, running it through the sling stud (you would have to add one to the 870) then tying it to a piece of adjustable 1" nylon strap... looking for a better solution, used a split key ring to anchor the strap to the sling stud, finally just using a quick detachable swivel to the stud (turned it slightly to align the angle) really helps to control the recoil...don't know the longevity, so far only a box of skeet loads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwtpQhuobfQ |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:35:37 AM EDT
[#19]
A front strap with shell loops would be cool.
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Posted: 5/20/2018 6:03:30 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Just picked up the DM version. The current plan is to file a Form 1 to SBS it; put a 10” MCS barrel and MCS forend on it and have my local gunsmith cut the “mag tube” down to the length of the barrel. Then add a high tube stock adapter. And maybe a Salvo https://i.imgur.com/DI6zlaJ.jpg 
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Posted: 5/20/2018 10:05:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I recommend an SB Brace instead of the SBS. I have one and it's great. The angle looks a little odd but it's perfect with a bead sight. The same drop as my Mesa Urbino stock for my M4. https://i.imgur.com/KwAo4Xcl.jpg |
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Posted: 5/25/2018 11:25:16 PM EDT
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I recently changed out the forend on my 20ga to a Pachmayr. Since they used a sleeve around the forend assembly you can use 12ga furniture. I'm sure this pic will just show up as a link (man I got to get my post count up here I guess).
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Posted: 5/26/2018 2:54:21 PM EDT
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20 gauge
Suarez +1 Mag Tube Tac-Star pistol grip/stock Adapter KAK Shockwave Blade / Buffer Tube (Spare I had in the bin. If it's too rough on the shoulder I may need to get one of the bigger rubber ones.) MAGPUL K2 Grip (cut, filed, sanded to fit) Until I get a standard K. 
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Posted: 5/26/2018 11:57:21 PM EDT
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Ok kids. I can confirm now that the Choate folding stock adapter is gtg. And it will accept modern style AK grips like the MOE AK and the Ergo Grips AK.
@FiveO  Attached File Attached File Attached FileAlso, their mag tube extensions are fucking sweet. Very heavy duty construction. I was impressed. (Different 870)  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 5/28/2018 8:42:23 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I never heard of suarez until seeing someone post a link to his site here on Arfcom. I made the mistake of clicking the link and sending him $300. There should be a site rule that disallows hot-linking of shithead vendors. Would have saved me a lot of aggravation. I like what AIP has to offer, but still didnt see a 12.5" option. Judging by AIP's pricing... sure looks like Suarez fucked me pretty good. 
Edit to add: Dug the barrel out of storage for pics since im still pissed. Upon closer examination... I find the front sight is also deformed from beating with a hammer. $300 fucking dollars for this mess... and almost 2 months of waiting. 
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/7187/20180512_110532_resized-541734.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/7187/20180512_110625_resized-541735.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/7187/20180512_110638_resized-541736.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/7187/20180512_110657_resized-541737.JPG |
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Posted: 5/29/2018 1:24:51 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I've been reading that the magazines are not as robust as Mossbergs |
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Posted: 5/31/2018 8:51:23 PM EDT
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LOL... I call it “The Punisher”...
The comb is a 1/4” too high so, you have to aim using the top of the sight instead of the center dot.  KAK Shockwave tube with Blade brace Mesa Tactical adapter w/ Magpul grip XS Big Dot night sight +1 mag extension |
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Posted: 6/1/2018 1:14:53 PM EDT
[#28]
@fmj_shooter
Thanks for passing it on! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Ok kids. I can confirm now that the Choate folding stock adapter is gtg. And it will accept modern style AK grips like the MOE AK and the Ergo Grips AK. @FiveO https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/399622/KIMG0788-556398.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/399622/KIMG0789-556400.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/399622/KIMG0790-556401.JPG Also, their mag tube extensions are fucking sweet. Very heavy duty construction. I was impressed. (Different 870) https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/399622/KIMG0792-556404.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/399622/KIMG0791-556406.JPG |
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Posted: 6/1/2018 9:54:20 PM EDT
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Form1 finally approved.
THIS is what my TAC14 became.
Wish the Suarez 12.5" barrel wasn't such an abortion. 
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Posted: 6/1/2018 10:52:07 PM EDT
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Form1 finally approved. THIS is what my TAC14 became.
Wish the Suarez 12.5" barrel wasn't such an abortion.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/7187/Rem870SBS-562839.JPG |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 6:25:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still looks badass. Did you do that stipple job yourself? |
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Posted: 6/4/2018 1:07:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not stippled, just rubberized factory Hogue 12" LOP stock set. |
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Posted: 6/5/2018 8:13:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Form1 finally approved. THIS is what my TAC14 became.
Wish the Suarez 12.5" barrel wasn't such an abortion.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/7187/Rem870SBS-562839.JPG I’m thinking about chopping the barrel down to 12.5” after installing the arm brace. OAL will be about 30” with the brace collapsed. |
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Posted: 6/11/2018 3:24:25 AM EDT
[#34]
Got tired of waiting for the hardwood model. Got the wood set off eBay, bit pricey though. Next up is a side saddle.
Edit: Side saddle came today along with the handstop. 
I love it, the Tac-14 is pretty close to the stereotypical zombie shotgun. |
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Posted: 6/11/2018 11:53:54 AM EDT
[#35]
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Got tired of waiting for the hardwood model. Got the wood set off eBay, bit pricey though. Next up is a side saddle.
https://i.imgur.com/djvyPly.jpg Some times sexy aint cheap. 
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Posted: 6/18/2018 12:55:19 PM EDT
[#36]
Bump for a sweet thread.
Anyone manage to get a heat shield on the Tac-14 yet? The mossberg owners seem to be having luck and I'm getting jealous. 
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Posted: 6/18/2018 11:00:11 PM EDT
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So, I've tried 3 foreends:
Magpul Moe Speedfeed Corncob Hogue Overmold Of the three, I have to say the Hogue is the best feeling, smoothest action, and best looking. Really think I'm going to stick with it. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 4:23:21 AM EDT
[#38]
This is the brace system I really want but it makes me nervous. The ATF letter provided by Suarez only mentions an opinion on shouldering the brace. There is no mention that this folding brace has been deemed satisfactory to the ATF.
Can someone prove me wrong? I really want to order this! I've found this online, could I swap the stock for a brace and call it a day? Would still need a grip of course. A huge thanks to this community, I have learned a lot here. 
http://www.riflestock.com/store/images/store/2962-1.jpg |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 9:31:31 AM EDT
[#39]
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This is the brace system I really want but it makes me nervous. The ATF letter provided by Suarez only mentions an opinion on shouldering the brace. There is no mention that this folding brace has been deemed satisfactory to the ATF. Can someone prove me wrong? I really want to order this! I've found this online, could I swap the stock for a brace and call it a day? Would still need a grip of course. A huge thanks to this community, I have learned a lot here. http://www.riflestock.com/store/images/store/2962-1.jpg http://www.riflestock.com/store/images/store/2962-1.jpg |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 12:57:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
This is the brace system I really want but it makes me nervous. The ATF letter provided by Suarez only mentions an opinion on shouldering the brace. There is no mention that this folding brace has been deemed satisfactory to the ATF. Can someone prove me wrong? I really want to order this! I've found this online, could I swap the stock for a brace and call it a day? Would still need a grip of course. A huge thanks to this community, I have learned a lot here. http://www.riflestock.com/store/images/store/2962-1.jpg http://www.riflestock.com/store/images/store/2962-1.jpg |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 3:32:10 PM EDT
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So, I've tried 3 foreends: Magpul Moe Speedfeed Corncob Hogue Overmold Of the three, I have to say the Hogue is the best feeling, smoothest action, and best looking. Really think I'm going to stick with it. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:53:32 PM EDT
[#42]
My apologies, still very green here. I meant to quote an earlier comment. They posted a picture of the Suarez folding brace. Really want that brace system but would like to hear others opinions on it.
The picture i included was a stock indeed. I was thinking of buying it, removing the "stock" part and installing a brace in its place. Thanks! |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 9:09:57 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
So, I've tried 3 foreends: Magpul Moe Speedfeed Corncob Hogue Overmold Of the three, I have to say the Hogue is the best feeling, smoothest action, and best looking. Really think I'm going to stick with it. |
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Posted: 6/20/2018 8:03:17 AM EDT
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@LegalLlama
Scroll up and check out fmj_shooter’s setup. The folding adapter you are looking at is a Choate Mfg part available from them direct. It takes any AK type grip (like the Magpul MOE AK) if you don’t like what it comes with and an AR tube and brace of your choosing. Folding mechanism. @fmj_shooter Quote HistoryQuoted:
My apologies, still very green here. I meant to quote an earlier comment. They posted a picture of the Suarez folding brace. Really want that brace system but would like to hear others opinions on it. The picture i included was a stock indeed. I was thinking of buying it, removing the "stock" part and installing a brace in its place. Thanks! |
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Posted: 6/20/2018 10:50:46 PM EDT
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Ergo “stock” adaptor, MOE grip, SBA3 and ScatterGun Tech 1 round mag extender.
Really like it. Nice and tight. Can’t wait to shoot it.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/21/2018 2:15:52 AM EDT
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Does anyone have any proof that the folding brace is legal? Suarez claims it is, but other manufacturers have had guns recalled/seized for measuring with the folding brace extended instead of closed. Posted the article of concern below.
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/05/24/oal-brace-folded/ |
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Posted: 6/21/2018 10:26:32 AM EDT
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Does anyone have any proof that the folding brace is legal? Suarez claims it is, but other manufacturers have had guns recalled/seized for measuring with the folding brace extended instead of closed. Posted the article of concern below. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/05/24/oal-brace-folded/ You want a letter for yourself, then write the ATF. Your link to TFB is nothing more than an isolated incident off a manufacturer circumventing state law and getting mixed up with the ATF. TFB sells shock value and clickbait. All you've done in this thread page is questions the legality of perfectly legal builds on this thread. Would you believe me if I said Mossberg and Remington will be releasing these with folding braces??? Probably not. |
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Posted: 6/21/2018 11:29:48 AM EDT
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Does anyone have any proof that the folding brace is legal? They can interpret the law any way they want (and reinterpret it again a week later)... This is one of the reasons I went with the fixed KAK tube / brace for my Scorpion & Tac 14. |
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Posted: 6/21/2018 12:20:00 PM EDT
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LOL... I call it “The Punisher”... The comb is a 1/4” too high so, you have to aim using the top of the sight instead of the center dot. https://i.imgur.com/YQoQlTx.jpg KAK Shockwave tube with Blade brace Mesa Tactical adapter w/ Magpul grip XS Big Dot night sight +1 mag extension |
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Posted: 6/21/2018 1:47:15 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like the non angle on the adapter. That straight looks much better Problem with the Mesa Tactical adapter is that it creates a very high comb and you end up “looking over” the front sight. It’s not much of an issue if you install a rail/red dot. |
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