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Posted: 7/17/2015 10:58:05 AM EDT
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I recently sold my M1 Super 90, excellent weapon, but it kicked too hard.
I have two ruptured disc in my neck, plus spinal stenosis. I need a shotgun that will protect me, not punish me. Intended use: HD/PD that can also be used to hunt if the need arises. What low recoil12 gauge semi-auto-loaders with a pistol grip stock should I consider? How is the recoil on a SAIGA? Thanks 
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There are a number of ways to reduce shotgun recoil. The biggest is to shoot a lower recoil shell. Winchester Featherlights (now called Reduced Recoil, I think) are very pleasant to shoot. There are also Reduced Recoil defensive loads.
The other thing that you need to do is to fit the gun to you. An overly long length of pull increases felt recoil. Cut the stock down to a comfortable length of pull and install a nice grind-to-fit recoil pad. When cutting the stock, also consider cutting a negative toe angle. We don't use defensive shotguns the same as a skeet gun. Most shotgun butt stocks are angles for shooting at aerial targets. When aiming at ground targets, the toe of the stock digs into the shoulder causing increased felt recoil. Cutting the butt at an angle more suited for ground targets, goes a long way towards reducing felt recoil. You could also consider an aftermarket recoil reducing stock like the Knoxx Spec Ops (do they still make this??). It has a pogo stick mechanism in it which greatly reduces recoil. |
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My sons Remington 1187 in 20ga is pretty light but I'm guessing you can do better. I'm thinking a Mossberg 930 12ga with low recoil buck (that gun runs about any ammo) or Mossberg SA20 in 20ga. Make sure the LOP fits you as that makes a big difference in perceived and felt recoil. Also a good recoil pad like Limbsaver. If your thinking pump, I think the Magpul SGA is about the best stock out there for HD/SD. Easy to fit to the shooter, pistol grip type of hold helps manage recoil, and can use after market recoil pads.
That being said, you maybe better off just using the AR15 or similar for HD/SD. Use the money you would spend on a shotgun and get a good light and ammo. |
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Quoted: What low recoil12 gauge semi-auto-loaders with a pistol grip stock should I consider? Not a semi-auto, but the 20 ga 870 Youth w/ a slightly modified 12 ga Pachmayr Vindicator grip is a handy handling gun. Run full choke, #1 buck, 2&3/4" shells, fun gun to shoot. 7 round magazine extensions available. |
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I sent you a email on a 20ga tactical i have listed.
But as far as your post. My saiga and vepr 12 still have kick (more then my buddies versamax). I do have a arsenal sgl41 which is the converted and refined saiga 410 to the ak74 look alike by arsenal. It is ridiculously soft shooting but then again the price of 410 is also ridiculous. I am lucky enough to have to factory 10 round magazines. So I would trust those for home defense roll not so sure about other aftermarket mags. If only csspec would mag steel 10 or 15rd 410 maga then that would perhaps fix that issue for aftermarket mags. Or if a good 410 drum was a b option, i have not heard good reliability reviews of the promag drum. |
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Maybe you could have a brake mounted? Like on a competition gun? Also a short stock with a good pad, plus a slip on pad could help. If it's the sharp recoil that hurts what about a gun with a longer recoil cycle? Like a a5 or Remington 11-48? Maybe the longer but also duller recoil might help. |
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I know you said auto, but you might consider a Knoxx stock. It works well on a Moss 12ga. If you went with a 20ga and put a lighter spring in the stock you would knock the recoil down even further.
I put one of these stocks on a 12ga before giving it to my son at age 12 and he shot through a box of target loads his first time out never having shot a 12ga before. He was a small kid at that time too. The stock really works. |
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I have neck issues as well
My solution has worked great for me and have shot over 200 rds of standard power slugs and buck in a range session with zero next day I can't move my head pain. My gun is a Mossberg 500 12 ga. 20 in barrel I put a Magpul stock on it. I kept the lop short I added a slip on limbsaver pad over the Magpul recoil bringing the lop to where I like it |
| I had a Winchester SX2 and it was a pretty soft shooting gun, even with 3.5" shells. I don't know if a pistol grip is available for them though. If price isn't a concern check out the Benelli M4, it's gas operated and should reduce the recoil a bit more than the inertia guns. |
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My 13 year old Son runs a Remington 870 with 21" turkey bbl (vent rib with Rem-Choke)
I fitted a Youth Stock and the Rem-Cell pad and I'll be dog gone if it isn't a smooth and soft shooting lil' shotgun. At a recent Boy Scout camp out - shot gun shoot, several of the other boys had 20 gauges that clearly kicked more. The Benilli has always had a quick hard kick. If Semi-Auto, the Mossburg 930 gas operated will cycle a wide range of shells and shoots smooth and soft for a 12 gauge. BIGGER_HAMMER 
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