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3/24/2013 8:55:06 AM EDT
Has anyone encountered this before?  When trying to feed shells into the tube, the rim is getting caught on the carrier and requiring an extra hard push to get them in there.  I've stripped it down, removed the follower and spring, etc etc etc.  Now here's the thing...it only has issues when the barrel is installed an fully seated!  Unseated about 3/16th's (unscrewing the cap a bit) the shells feed like they should.  No snags, no hangups, etc etc.  Feeds smooth with or without the spring and follower.

So I am wondering, is this an issue with my carrier, or the barrel??  It is also missing the piston seal assembly, but I doubt that has much of anything to do with the tube not feeding easily.  The friend that I bought it from bought this particular shotgun a long time ago, and never fired it, so I bought it from him.  I made him aware of the issues/missing parts, and he has already ordered a replacement carrier and piston/piston seal assembly for me.

Will this be enough to solve my problem or is there something else i need to look at??

11-87 premier 2 3/4" or 3" shells.
3/24/2013 10:04:13 AM EDT
[#1]
Do you notice a difference in ease of feeding with the bolt open versus the bolt closed?
3/24/2013 4:13:44 PM EDT
[#2]
the bolt has to be closed to feed it.  bolt release is part of the carrier and must be pressed for each shell fed.
3/24/2013 4:31:08 PM EDT
[#3]
That's where I was headed.   I have seen some folks complain that their Remingtons were difficult to load, but they had the bolt open.
3/24/2013 6:19:54 PM EDT
[#4]
make sure you are using a good quality of shotshell...some of the promo stuff varies considerably in the rim diameter...
3/24/2013 6:31:09 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Has anyone encountered this before?  When trying to feed shells into the tube, the rim is getting caught on the carrier and requiring an extra hard push to get them in there.  I've stripped it down, removed the follower and spring, etc etc etc.  Now here's the thing...it only has issues when the barrel is installed an fully seated!  Unseated about 3/16th's (unscrewing the cap a bit) the shells feed like they should.  No snags, no hangups, etc etc.  Feeds smooth with or without the spring and follower.

So I am wondering, is this an issue with my carrier, or the barrel??  It is also missing the piston seal assembly, but I doubt that has much of anything to do with the tube not feeding easily.  The friend that I bought it from bought this particular shotgun a long time ago, and never fired it, so I bought it from him.  I made him aware of the issues/missing parts, and he has already ordered a replacement carrier and piston/piston seal assembly for me.

Will this be enough to solve my problem or is there something else i need to look at??

11-87 premier 2 3/4" or 3" shells.


Install the piston seal part and let us know if that solves the loading problem.

3/26/2013 4:52:04 PM EDT
[#6]
new carrier and piston/piston seal assembly inbound.  eta thursday.  hopefully any woes get taken care of with this.  if so, it's on to modifying.
3/27/2013 8:01:01 PM EDT
[#7]
So...I got the new parts today.

Works LESS.  What the hell??  I installed the new piston/piston seal assembly (not the carrier yet, got no hammer/punch), and now the action bar/sleeve moves forward less thereby interrupting the carrier!  so i swap back in the old piston, no piston seal, and no barrel seal...and it all seats right up and i can chamber shells easily.  This is frustrating me to no end.  One of you shotgun guru's has to have an answer for me.  Ye gods, why have I been forsaken??
3/27/2013 8:11:50 PM EDT
[#8]
Did you put the piston on the right way?

3/27/2013 8:24:50 PM EDT
[#9]
yes, i positioned the piston that way, and here's the directions and way i did it.

http://imageshack.us/a/img59/3630/directionsd.jpg
3/27/2013 8:38:29 PM EDT
[#10]
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3/27/2013 9:53:30 PM EDT
[#11]
OK... closing this with a "wow, what the shit"

Guy i bought it from said the guy he bought it from said that it wouldn't cycle.  I figured it'd be a neat project, yada yada.  That missing piece i mentioned earlier? Well I found it....jammed and beat to shit inside the gas cylinder.  Yeah.  It didn't cycle because the guy basically assembled it wrong.  It was SO jammed in there that i believed it was part of the gas cylinder in the first place!!  The part is so beat from poor assembly that it's a good thing  got the new part.  The carrier is beat to shit from 3 owners jamming the crap out of shells into it.  I'm confident this thing will work now, with the new gas parts, I'm sure it'll work.
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