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3/26/2012 12:02:44 AM EDT
Has anyone heard _anything_ about the Kel-Tec KSG since the flopped "pre-Christmas" release everyone was talking about? I know that a lot of industry partners and firearm reviewers got their hands on preproduction versions to write reviews with, but since all the hype at the end of last year, I haven't heard a thing. Can anyone give even a somewhat authoritative answer on this one? When the hell are they going to actually release this thing?
3/26/2012 12:09:18 AM EDT
[#1]
Please use the search.  We have a lot of threads on the KSG including a bunch of member reviews that have them.
3/26/2012 4:47:05 AM EDT
[#2]
I pre-ordered one last February. I am still 16 on the list waiting for my shipment GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
3/26/2012 5:30:20 AM EDT
[#3]
see, that's the thing.  I did a Google search, and I searched the shotgun forum here on arfcom, so why was there not a giant banner that read something like, "KSG IS FINALLY HERE!" that played the sound of trumpets every time you mouse over it?  Again, with all the hype, it's had a rather unremarkable launch.  Good to know it's out now, although the price is already firmly gouged all over the interwebs.

Ah well.
3/26/2012 5:39:05 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
see, that's the thing.  I did a Google search, and I searched the shotgun forum here on arfcom, so why was there not a giant banner that read something like, "KSG IS FINALLY HERE!" that played the sound of trumpets every time you mouse over it?  Again, with all the hype, it's had a rather unremarkable launch.  Good to know it's out now, although the price is already firmly gouged all over the interwebs.

Ah well.


Seen a couple at local shows.  One was a pre-sample that wasn't actually for sale, but the guy had $1800 on it...

Kel-Tec doesn't really have "big" releases, since they have limited production capabilities.  They can barely meet demand as-is, so they don't want to hype up the release more than they need to to sell what they can make.  Same thing happened with the RFB.  I didn't know they were out in numbers yet, but I found and picked up one under serial #500 at a friend's local shop.
3/26/2012 6:32:13 AM EDT
[#5]

Search the Bullpup forum here @ AR15 & you should find what you are looking for.
3/26/2012 6:33:34 AM EDT
[#6]
According to an article in the latest NRA magazine, about things being debuted at the upcoming NRA convention in St. Louis, Kel-Tec is supposed to debut two NFA versions of the KSG.  One will have 16" barrels and the other will have 14" barrels.

They can't even get Title I versions of the guns into buyers' hands and they're going to interupt production to produce guns with such a limited market.  There are times I don't understand K-T's logic at all.
3/26/2012 2:16:29 PM EDT
[#7]



Quoted:


According to an article in the latest NRA magazine, about things being debuted at the upcoming NRA convention in St. Louis, Kel-Tec is supposed to debut two NFA versions of the KSG.  One will have 16" barrels and the other will have 14" barrels.



They can't even get Title I versions of the guns into buyers' hands and they're going to interupt production to produce guns with such a limited market.  There are times I don't understand K-T's logic at all.


The quality of their existing product lineup isn't that great either. Its been hit and miss in terms of reliability for every Kel-Tec I've come across. They make excellent designs, but their execution isn't that great.



With that said I don't trust the KSG yet. In fact Nutnfancy's shooting test of the KSG revealed reliability issues.



 
3/27/2012 6:07:07 AM EDT
[#8]
These are quite nice!!!

Tony
3/27/2012 6:13:40 AM EDT
[#9]
2 weeks ago, I could have walked out of the store with one if I had $2000 to spend.  Someone has put the shotgun on hold though so I missed my chance

I'll grab one when I can get it for $650 or less.  So maybe 2014?
3/27/2012 3:48:08 PM EDT
[#10]
Store near me has one on the shelf that is spoken for and has I think 20 more coming in. Price was $880
3/28/2012 6:18:12 AM EDT
[#11]
A local store has one that they're showing off but won't sell.  It's already scratched up from so many people finger humping it.  I pre-ordered last February, so maybe one day I'll get one...
3/28/2012 7:32:25 AM EDT
[#12]
I was going to preorder, but I was working on getting a USP at the time... I'm still excited about the KSG, even if it's a bit strange to use, as long as it will hold up fine with a bit of range use. I'm not going to be using it like a baseball bat or anything, so as long as it works, I'll be happy.  

Haha, at this point, it looks like I'll have to wait until 2014 to get one at a decent price as well
3/28/2012 9:27:07 AM EDT
[#13]
One online shop that usually has great prices has one in stock. For nearly $1900! Never thought I'd see them overprice a product like that.
4/18/2012 11:17:26 AM EDT
[#14]
I would like one but I will have to wait until 2015-16 since I am not getting in on the pre-order thing or paying the outrageous asking prices.  I had to find a PMR-30 on the secondary market from a friend who recently picked up a newest generation of it...........and still have not shot it.  Hopefully these will come into our hands someday, but I gave up on the RFB and decided to go with another rifle.
4/18/2012 11:25:32 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
I would like one but I will have to wait until 2015-16 since I am not getting in on the pre-order thing or paying the outrageous asking prices.  I had to find a PMR-30 on the secondary market from a friend who recently picked up a newest generation of it...........and still have not shot it.  Hopefully these will come into our hands someday, but I gave up on the RFB and decided to go with another rifle.


I like my RFB, and I got one in the mid 400's serial range, zero problems, $1400 2 months after it's official release.
4/18/2012 8:13:09 PM EDT
[#16]
Saw 2 at the MarketHall gunshow this past weekend on 2 different dealers tables.
$1650 and $1900

They can keep them at that price. Dont need it so bad to take a betting.
4/19/2012 3:47:44 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Saw 2 at the MarketHall gunshow this past weekend on 2 different dealers tables.
$1650 and $1900

They can keep them at that price. Dont need it so bad to take a betting.


The ones marked that high...aren't really for sale...
4/19/2012 5:11:39 AM EDT
[#18]
We have one of the fist dealer samples at our shop and while I have not shot it , I didnt feel the need to run out and buy one. It's ok and it looks cool , but its a shotgun and I would rather have a Benneli than that.

4/19/2012 7:54:01 AM EDT
[#19]
Local dealer has one they're hanging on to so they can drive interest in it.   I'm 2nd person on the waiting list and they're charging $689
5/7/2012 6:46:56 PM EDT
[#20]
Now if only they could produce a semi-automtic version of it.......and oh yeah, have it made by someone other thn Kel-Tec....(imagine Benelli)
5/7/2012 7:16:25 PM EDT
[#21]
I don't need a 14 shot pump, but I would be interested in an 8 shot semi auto bul pup.
5/8/2012 8:40:46 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
I don't need a 14 shot pump, but I would be interested in an 8 shot semi auto bul pup.


Better to have 14 shots and not need them than to need 14 shots and not have them.
BUT
Better to have an 870 (or 10) and go on with life than to grow old waiting for KT production and/or pay scalper prices.
5/9/2012 3:47:09 PM EDT
[#23]
Looks to be an interesting little gun.......IF its somewhat reliable and durable........You dont need much room inside a house to swing a 26" bullpup.........  a full size 870 on the other hand.....

Does anyone else make anything like this?  Like an earlier poster said.....8 shot semi auto in a nice compact package
5/9/2012 4:30:22 PM EDT
[#24]
The cool appearance quickly loses its luster after you shoot it.

I put close to 200rds thru one, I was not impressed, at all.
5/9/2012 5:33:11 PM EDT
[#25]
Hi Standard made a 4+1 auto loader bul pup in the '70s. Model 10 if I recall. It only liked high brass shells. I kick myself for not buying one when I was younger for $400. I have seen several with tags of $750 and higher in the last 5 years.
5/9/2012 11:21:47 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
The cool appearance quickly loses its luster after you shoot it.

I put close to 200rds thru one, I was not impressed, at all.




Im not talking about the appearance, Im talking about the size and convenience of the overall package.......looks to be a GREAT duffel bag gun If its reliable....

What are your thoughts after 200 rounds?  Kicks like a mule?  reliable feeding?  Any ejection problems?  Smooth action?  How do you switch from one tube the other?  


Hunduh
5/11/2012 11:12:25 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Quoted:
The cool appearance quickly loses its luster after you shoot it.

I put close to 200rds thru one, I was not impressed, at all.




Im not talking about the appearance, Im talking about the size and convenience of the overall package.......looks to be a GREAT duffel bag gun If its reliable....

What are your thoughts after 200 rounds?  Kicks like a mule?  reliable feeding?  Any ejection problems?  Smooth action?  How do you switch from one tube the other?  


Hunduh


I don't like the high sight over bore profile, it comes with NO sights at all. However, we did put a RDS on it, it did make it a bit more sight friendly.
Recoil, was manageable, but then again, I am not recoil sensitive, other folks in my group did feel the recoil was a bit stout.
Feeding, it was reliable.
No ejection problems to speek of.
Action was far from smooth, had a stiff and gritty feeling and the trigger sucked.

The switch that directs which tube it feeds from is right in front of the mag tubes, you flip the switch to block one of the tubes. IMHO, the switch is in a very inconvienant place.

All that said, the size of the gun is very appealing, but it is not a very refined unit.

5/18/2012 8:44:45 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Please use the search.  We have a lot of threads on the KSG including a bunch of member reviews that have them.


Link please. I tried the search function and didnt have any luck.
5/18/2012 8:55:03 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Please use the search.  We have a lot of threads on the KSG including a bunch of member reviews that have them.


Link please. I tried the search function and didnt have any luck.


Google  site:ar15.com *enter search phrase here*

https://www.google.com/search?q=ar15&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=dWx&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&q=+site:ar15.com+ksg&oq=+site:ar15.com+ksg&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...6281.153872.2.154123.54.42.12.0.0.0.213.5377.17j23j2.42.0...0.0.jA76f3KWA7c&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=782318b5dcae0e22&biw=1680&bih=894
6/10/2012 7:51:57 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Looks to be an interesting little gun.......IF its somewhat reliable and durable........You dont need much room inside a house to swing a 26" bullpup.........  a full size 870 on the other hand.....

Does anyone else make anything like this?  Like an earlier poster said.....8 shot semi auto in a nice compact package


Just held one of these bad boys yesterday-

http://www.tactical-life.com/online/products/srm-arms-1216-semi-auto-shotgun/

Its a SRM Arms 1216, the "civilian" version holds 16 rounds. Its semi auto, with a detatchable, rotory, magazine and when you rotate from the empty tube to a full tube the carrier automatically closes and chambers another round. It is completely awesome and I would love to get one, but this one had a $2600 price tag on it. But if you got the dough, it looks like it would be perfect for CQC.
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