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Posted: 8/21/2009 9:58:34 PM EDT
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Just wondering what specifc lower recoil loads are the best.
I just got an 870 with a strictly pistol stock, and I have some 2 3/4 00 buck, and 3" Magnum Slugs..... screw that! I highly doubt Id be able to handel that recoil. Emergency, Ill do it, but if I had the choice Id take some low recoil loads Instead of going out and trying every "low recoil" defensive round on the market I figured Id inquire with arfcom. |
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The absolute 110% best thing you can do is remove the pistol grip!
There is absolutely no reason to have only have a pistol grip on a defensive shotgun. Its not very controllable, it has bad recoil, you can't aim very well, you can hurt yourself, you will not shoot anywhere as fast as with a normal stock, and your effective range is reduced even more. Buy a conventional or pistol-gripped full stock before buying ammo. With a proper fitting stock & quality recoil pad, you really shouldn't need low-recoil shells. If you still want a low-recoil load, the Federal Tactical Low-Recoil 9 pellet 00 buckshot is very good & Speer Lawman Rifled Slugs are great also. Once again, the absolute 110% best thing you can do is remove the pistol grip! Use the pistol grip for stupid fun at the range, not for a defensive shotgun. |
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As far as low recoil loads, the two that pattern the best in MY 870P are the Winchester Winlite 9-pellet 00BK and the Winchester Ranger 8-pellet 00BK. Your gun could favor something else so you need to go out and pattern it with a variety of different loads.
Start with the following: Federal Tactical 00BK with Flite Control Winchester Ranger 00BK (8 or 9 pellet version) Hornaday TAP 00BK Remington TAC8 00BK As others have said, ditch the PGO for PGFS (pistol grip full stock, like a Speedfeed IV-S) or a conventional stock. If you absolutely must have a PGO, then get the Blackhawk-Knoxx Breacher Grip. It should take care of the recoil. |
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The absolute 110% best thing you can do is remove the pistol grip! There is absolutely no reason to have only have a pistol grip on a defensive shotgun. Its not very controllable, it has bad recoil, you can't aim very well, you can hurt yourself, you will not shoot anywhere as fast as with a normal stock, and your effective range is reduced even more. Buy a conventional or pistol-gripped full stock before buying ammo. With a proper fitting stock & quality recoil pad, you really shouldn't need low-recoil shells. If you still want a low-recoil load, the Federal Tactical Low-Recoil 9 pellet 00 buckshot is very good & Speer Lawman Rifled Slugs are great also. Once again, the absolute 110% best thing you can do is remove the pistol grip! Use the pistol grip for stupid fun at the range, not for a defensive shotgun. +1 Take that pistol grip off. I don't know why companies keep selling them. They ruin a shooter's expierence with shotguns and can hurt the user if they aren't careful. For cheap practice and practice only, get a box or two of the 100 round value packs at walmart. Get the Federal, not the Winchester. |
They sell pistol grips cause they're cooool 
OP, it would improve your accuracy to switch to full stock. It also adds 10ish inches to the length, which may or may not matter to you (some people feel confident with their 26.5" pistol grip shotguns crammed between couch cushions or behind the seat of their truck or under the cash register, but whatever). This doesn't answer your question, however. What does is to look out for some of the Win-Lite 00 buck. Patterns tight with the recoil of a #7.5 birdshot. Good luck! |
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Thanks for the answers.
I have both stocks for it, but will be using the pistol stock primarily. The shotgun is not designed to be a go to gun, but a back up gun/breacher gun. Hence the 18 barrel and pistol grip it is barely noticable on my back. I will alsp be getting a VFG to disapate recoil. Oh the pistol grip I have ia a Hogue, very nice |
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The shotgun is not designed to be a go to gun, but a back up gun/breacher gun. If it is a breacher gun, then use breacher shells, which have low recoil. If you are going to use the gun for defending your life, get rid of that "cool" but silly pistol grip and put a stock on that shotgun. |
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Thanks for the answers. I have both stocks for it, but will be using the pistol stock primarily. The shotgun is not designed to be a go to gun, but a back up gun/breacher gun. Hence the 18 barrel and pistol grip it is barely noticable on my back. I will alsp be getting a VFG to disapate recoil. Oh the pistol grip I have ia a Hogue, very nice I wonder if Serbu sells the forend they put on the Super Shorty; that would make a compact VFG that swings out of the way when not needed. |
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Thanks for the answers. I have both stocks for it, but will be using the pistol stock primarily. The shotgun is not designed to be a go to gun, but a back up gun/breacher gun. Hence the 18 barrel and pistol grip it is barely noticable on my back. I will alsp be getting a VFG to disapate recoil. Oh the pistol grip I have ia a Hogue, very nice I wonder if Serbu sells the forend they put on the Super Shorty; that would make a compact VFG that swings out of the way when not needed. Do NOT put a VFG on a shotgun. You will warp/bend the action bars. They are not designed to take that kind of pull. OP - Are you breaching doors with this shotgun regularly? If not, please take that pistol grip off. You don't want to turn out like this guy... Click me |
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Yes, Safety Harbor does sell a serbu-style foregrip. Downside is, it costs $120
KEG Folding Grip for Remington 870 $120.00 Info @ bottom of page |
| how about the Aguilla ammo from Brazil? They are short shells with reduced loads and powder. They come in #4/#0 buckshot combos and slug in 12 gauge. I have a good action on an old springfield shotgun and they reliably feed, at least in this one. A side note.....you can get a couple extra in the tube as well. A breaching pistol grip is designed more with an off angle better suited for in home use. Or do as grampa did in WW2 and cut off a wood long stock leaving enough for your hand grip. Can shoot "point blank"in your face and still shoot straight ahead. |
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