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11/18/2008 5:29:05 PM EDT
http://www.sageinternationalltd.com/si/access/shotgun.html#ts870

anyone have experience with the telescoping stocks? i've handled one, nicely made. just never shouldered one on a gun or fired one. testimonials? thanks.
11/18/2008 5:39:55 PM EDT
[#1]
interesting...
11/19/2008 2:51:38 PM EDT
[#2]
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=47&t=607033

here's a recent auction from the EE with some better pics of the stock.
11/19/2008 3:51:21 PM EDT
[#3]
Interesting, indeed. Hot-linked:

http://www.sageinternationalltd.com/si/access/shotgun.html#ts870
11/19/2008 6:58:56 PM EDT
[#4]
I purchased the one on the EE. I've been eyeing one for a long time, and from archive searches and other forums, of the few who actually have tried one, it seems like half don't like the cheekweld and half find it acceptable. Another member in an earlier thread (~2 months ago) said he had contacted Sage and the sales rep stated they were working on releasing one with the Mk14 EBR stock cheekrest. No word on it since. Recoil is reported to be decent due to the excellent buttpad. Some also stay away from it because of its heavy weight and the inability to mount a side saddle. The all steel version is heavy but is described as extremely heavy duty and rock solid. A lightweight model with mostly aluminum parts (the two main guide rods remain steel) is available for a bit more.

I wanted one because its collapsible (more so than a Knoxx without being a folder) and looks great. I don't need to shoot 50 3" magnum buckshot loads in one sitting so in reality comfort isn't that big of a deal. Understand the above is all based on my (Internet) research and also from contacting Sage directly. I'll post a small review here once I've shot it.
11/20/2008 10:26:18 AM EDT
[#5]
I have one on a sbs 870. It didn't make sense to have a stock that was longer than the entire gun.

I was surprised that it didn't come with the butt pad that swivels and positions on top of the stock. The collapsing part (two bars and butt pad) look as if they used the ebr one. I actually prefer it because instead of three positions it has a lot more to get a more custom fit. cheek weld is fine and not bothersome at all. It's a little heavy (I have the Light weight version), but it's the most stout stock I've ever seen. I was considering cutting the left side bar off to be able to use a side saddle, but scraped that idea although I think it would be strong enough with just the one bar.

Get one. If you don't like it you can easily sell it. Got mine from Sage. Gunbroker auctions were listing used ones twice as much as a new one from sage.


11/20/2008 10:17:44 PM EDT
[#6]
Yeah for whatever reason you lose the buttpad swivel function on the LW version. Interesting you find the LW a bit heavy, looks like I might be in for a little surprise ...
11/22/2008 7:39:03 PM EDT
[#7]
great postings. this is the info i was hoping for. thanks for the contributions guys.
12/17/2008 9:53:16 AM EDT
[#8]
Where are these SAGE stocks available, I can't find anything on Web searches ??
12/17/2008 10:29:55 AM EDT
[#9]
I have been looking at these since I stumbled on the Sage website.  I have currently only have 1 870 with a Mesa Tactical side saddle and Knoxx Compstock and other goodies.  I plan to buy a 2nd 870 with an ultra KISS style.  18" barrel, bead sight, none extended mag and I think the Sage stock would be perfect for this build.
12/17/2008 1:44:01 PM EDT
[#10]
I've got one and I like it a whole lot. It is heavy, but not too heavy.
12/17/2008 7:58:05 PM EDT
[#11]
Okay I promised a small review once I got it so here it goes. Keep in mind I have the TS870R model and not the lightweight. My 870 is down at the moment due to a broken ejector so I haven't shot it much but enough to form an opinion to share with y'all:

First impressions: It's not pretty, and there's no special sauce finish, but wow it's built like a tank. Very heavy and will not be suitable for guys that need to lug around their 870 all day. However, this plays a big role in taming the recoil.
Installation: Requires taking out trigger group and stock assembly including stock nut (I needed a vise to take care of that). You will need to disassemble the Sage to install. All in all it's not overly difficult but is time consuming and much harder than you would think. Instructions are included and is a must. Aligning the trigger group back in with the pistol grip is also a chore.
Operation: Rods have very little play and slide smoothly. Buttpad swivel function also works well and further saves space. 3 positions: fully collapsed, 14" and 13" LOP. I wouldn't have minded a 10" LOP though.
Recoil: Almost the same as the Speedfeed I + R3 pad that came on my 870. Not bad for a skeleton collapsible! Two things I will attribute to this: the added weight and the Speedfeed recoil pad. This is the one thing most people have worries about and in my opinion it's great with recoil.
Comfort: Decent. If you usually shoot lots of highpower loads in one sitting, steer clear because your cheek is resting on one thin rod of steel. In general, it's not great, it's not horrid. Pistol grip feels like an A1 with much deeper checkering. It's the same grip as the Mk14 stock and Ergo sells a replacement. Again it's not bad but aftermarket options are almost nil.

I hope that answers some questions out there. I'll see if I can get my friend to take pictures.
12/18/2008 8:15:52 AM EDT
[#12]
Ive had a few I found online/at gunshows over the years. It was cool on my Sage modified Sidewinder Rem. 11-87. I didnt find it comfortable on my face when shooting and ended up either trading or selling mine and opted for body armor length solid stocks on my HD shotguns.
12/18/2008 9:51:12 PM EDT
[#13]
Well if anyone gets tired of theirs and wants to trade for a Knoxx Compostock just send me a pm.  I'd be happy to trade. + a little cash.
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