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I disagree.

First you have to understand why you transition to slug in the HD role. Nobody here is living in a house with rooms or hallways that are longer or wider than the effective range of a buckshot loaded 870. So you dont transition to slugs in the HD role to gain a longer effective range.

The reason you transition to slugs in the HD role is to put lead in a 0.76" pattern instead of a 12" pattern. The slug in the HD role is for those rare circumstances when you have to a) take a hostage shot or b) kill the bad guy who has innocents in the background or foreground who might be hit with one or more pellets if you fired buckshot.   In those circumstances you transition to slug because you want a single projectile that you can hit the badguy without hitting the goodguys packed around him.

The problem with the above referenced remington sluggers mentioned above, and most foster slugs, is they are NOT firing a single projectile. They fire a lead slug AND a plastic or felt wad. a wad which has significant muzzle energy itself, can kill at close range, typically strikes several incheas away from the slug itself and still has enough energy to punch through cardboard at 25yards.

That foster slug in the badguys head doesnt really solve your problem if at the same time you put the plastic wad through your wifes sinus cavity and brain with the same round.

The federal "Truball" ammo is even worse. Every shell fired sends a 1oz slug, a .50 caliber nylon ball and a .76 caliber full wadcutter nylon wad down range with each pull of the trigger.

The solution is to use one of the slugs that has the wad attached to the slug as it travels down range. 1-pull of the trigger results it one projectile alone going down range. Lots of options for slugs with attached wads. But most are using Brenneke slugs or a copy of them. Wolf, Brenneke, Rotweil, Brenneke KO.  I prefer the old ones that had a felt wad held into the slug with a wood screw. But the current ones where the plastic wad is staked to the slug seem to perform just as well.  

Dont chance collateral damge with slugs that have an unattached wad. I've got the see the effects of ultra light weight 12 gauge projectile on the human body several times. You shove a piece of plastic 1600FPS and it will cause severe injury at close range.

If you live alone then you can ignore everything i said above. You'll just be patching twice as many holes in your drywalll than if you went with a brenneke slug. But those of us with families need to be sure that when we select slug only one projectile is comming out that brl and its going exactly where we pointed it.

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Well I would not take that shot with my family at risk. I'm not that good. Good to see that your so confident but I would not want you to take that shot with my family at risk either. Especially with a shotgun slug. But that's just me.  

I would try to bullshit the guy eight ways to Sunday like I have been doing for 26 years.
It's worked so far.

After I got some room to work I would kill him. But not that close.

MIKE.

Quoted:


I disagree.

First you have to understand why you transition to slug in the HD role. Nobody here is living in a house with rooms or hallways that are longer or wider than the effective range of a buckshot loaded 870. So you dont transition to slugs in the HD role to gain a longer effective range.

The reason you transition to slugs in the HD role is to put lead in a 0.76" pattern instead of a 12" pattern. The slug in the HD role is for those rare circumstances when you have to a) take a hostage shot or b) kill the bad guy who has innocents in the background or foreground who might be hit with one or more pellets if you fired buckshot.   In those circumstances you transition to slug because you want a single projectile that you can hit the badguy without hitting the goodguys packed around him.

The problem with the above referenced remington sluggers mentioned above, and most foster slugs, is they are NOT firing a single projectile. They fire a lead slug AND a plastic or felt wad. a wad which has significant muzzle energy itself, can kill at close range, typically strikes several incheas away from the slug itself and still has enough energy to punch through cardboard at 25yards.

That foster slug in the badguys head doesnt really solve your problem if at the same time you put the plastic wad through your wifes sinus cavity and brain with the same round.

The federal "Truball" ammo is even worse. Every shell fired sends a 1oz slug, a .50 caliber nylon ball and a .76 caliber full wadcutter nylon wad down range with each pull of the trigger.

The solution is to use one of the slugs that has the wad attached to the slug as it travels down range. 1-pull of the trigger results it one projectile alone going down range. Lots of options for slugs with attached wads. But most are using Brenneke slugs or a copy of them. Wolf, Brenneke, Rotweil, Brenneke KO.  I prefer the old ones that had a felt wad held into the slug with a wood screw. But the current ones where the plastic wad is staked to the slug seem to perform just as well.  

Dont chance collateral damge with slugs that have an unattached wad. I've got the see the effects of ultra light weight 12 gauge projectile on the human body several times. You shove a piece of plastic 1600FPS and it will cause severe injury at close range.

If you live alone then you can ignore everything i said above. You'll just be patching twice as many holes in your drywalll than if you went with a brenneke slug. But those of us with families need to be sure that when we select slug only one projectile is comming out that brl and its going exactly where we pointed it.