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Posted: 11/27/2005 2:39:13 PM EDT
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So I have my old 870 standby (w/few a choice options). Looking for a Semi narrowed down to. Remy 11-87 Benelli M1 Spas 12 What do you think? |
| Have you seen any of these 3 shotguns in person ? Find a way to do so. I think the SPAS has the cool "look" over both the others, but ask anyone if they can quickly reload it after firing a few rounds and they will tell you there is no such thing. Both the Remington and the Benelli are fine but I prefer the M1. I have never seen one not function under even abnormal conditions. |
Mechanicly, the Beretta is the same gun as the Benelli (Beretta actually ownes Benelli Inc). Not all parts are 100% interchangeable, and there's less of an "aftermarket" for the Beretta (and watch out for very early Berettas that were chambered in 2 3/4" ONLY), but the Beretta is usually a few $$$ cheaper than the "sexier" Benelli.......and just as reliable. I still prefer my Benelli, though.... 
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I'm as loyal a Remington customer as you'll ever meet, but I voted for the Benelli - I'm just not a huge fan of the 11-87... I'd buy an 1100 before I'd buy an 11-87... The Beretta semis are pretty good - but an excellent semi that isn't on your list is the Winchester SuperX2 - outstanding shotgun, IMO.... - georgestrings |
Not true... Beretta and Benelli are not the same mechanicly. Beretta are use a gas system and Benelli uses the Inertia system. Benelli cost more because you are paying for the Inertia Driven system which, in most cases, is more reliable in some situations. |
Bingo! Beretta=Gas, Benelli=recoil or inertia operated. If you are going to shoot high volume, skeet, trap, soprting clays, tower shoots ect... you will do better with a Rem 11-87 or Beretta 391. If the gun is for hunting or self defense and you want to shoot mostly full house loads with out worry then the recoil operated might be better for you. MIKE. |
| They don't call the Benelli Super 90 super for nothing! I love my M1 but you should also look at the Winchester X2 and the Baretta Eureka. They are gass operated and shoot smooth. The Benelli is an inerta gun so there may be a bit more reciol but the gun is as light as a feather compared to an 11-87 and is the cleanest thing you'll ever shoot as no gas/carbon/powder comes back into the action. |
Hmmmmm.........I was sure that there was a Beretta out there that shared the Benelli's Inerta system.  If that's not the case, definately go with the Benelli. |
No Inerta Berettas, but there is the Stoger model 2000 that is a slightly different inerta system then the M1/2 and SBE, and from what my sales rep. was telling me it is more relable them the benelli. I personally would buy the Winchester SX2. I have put well over 3000 shells thourgh it with zero problems. Anything from 2 3/4 dram trap loads to slugs, not problems even from going litgh to heavy and back to light. But of the 
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THAT'S the Beretta I was thinking of! Not currently in production? Too bad.....they were a decent shotgun, especially for the money. IMHO, the Inerta system is the most reliable way to operate a "combat style" semi auto shotgun. Granted, they can be sensitive to "limp wristing" while shooting light loads.....but they run a whole lot faster and cleaner than any gas gun out there! And no gas rings to wear out. |
I don't know, 5 shots in .51 seconds from the SX2 seems quite fast to me 
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I'll go for cleaner that's for sure. But faster, I don't think so. O ring yes. But I have not replaced a O ring in over 30K. MIKE. |
This is simply not true and its just a bunch of marketing propaganda. I have spent quite a bit of time with shotguns at the range and in the field and I have never noticed any particular action type to be more reliable than the other. Even Over/Unders and pumps can malfunction. And the thing about running faster is crazy. Regardless of how fast the gun runs the shooter still need to come back on target. The only time I have ever had to 'wait' for my gun to cycle was when it was so gunked up (from not cleaning it) that it literally started slowing down. And that can happen on either type action. Either action type will work fine, just get a quality brand like the Benelli, Remington, Beretta, etc. |
Back on target? With the exception of slugs and 000 buck, my FN recoils less than my M4 (muzzle rise is nil). I can shoot the 5th shot before the 1st hull it's the ground, 25m, on target. There are people that shoot fast enough for it to matter. |
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