Posted: 9/25/2009 10:50:24 AM EDT
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I am looking into my first suppressed pistol and have read numerous posts about how awesome the mark II and III's are, as well as the buckmark. I know i want a Pac-lite or similar threaded barrel but buying the full pistol to then remove the barrel for another doesnt sound cost efficient.
on the Rugers, the barrel is the registered weapon, soooo does that mean i can find the lower halves sold alone? The cost of a markIII plus pac lite plus suppressor and stamp is right around 1k.... a $300 Mosquito sounds way more appealing. I know the accuracy of the ruger is way better, but i want it for shooting raccoons and other annoying animals on my property, so i don't need it for more than 20 yards. Suppressor users throw me some guidance... |
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I have a Mark II 22/45 that I wanted to purchase a polymer frame from Ruger so I could make some mods to the grips w/o sacrificing the original grip frame. They wouldn't sell it to me. They required me to send in the pistol and "hand fit" some parts that "only factory trained technincians" are allowed to touch. I have taken this thing down to it's component parts more than once and it doesn't require a degree in rocket science to achieve. None the less, they refused to sell the bare grip frame.
I still am looking for one and if anyone can point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it. |
They are "few and far between" and nobody makes an after market one. There have been a couple guys that have tried (or talked about trying) to produce a frame but it has resulted in nothing more than vaporware. You MIGHT find one for sale through sheer luck but there is no "right direction". 
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I was in a similar boat. I bought a basic Mk II 4.5" pistol for $200, took the OEM upper off, and added the TacSol upper.
Since I've done that I've also bought a buck mark, and I've found that I prefer the BM. Much better trigger out of the box, and you can buy a TacSol barrel for under $200, vs. $285 + shipping + FFL fee for the Ruger. The only downside is that used BM's go for a bit more $$$ than used Rugers. Obligatory gun porn: 
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Little OT here ... Will Mark 3 mags fit and function in a Mark lll 22/45? I don't think so - the grip angles are different. Thanks. I wonder what the steel vs plastic frame weight difference really is? Edit: Looking at the factory weights, looks to be 10oz or so. I cant decide if its worth it! And different mags.. |
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I cant decide if its worth it! And different mags.. Ideally you should go shoot both. If not, just handle both. Pick the one that feels better in your hand. One advantage of the Mk series is there is a lot more options to change out the grips to suit your fancy. The 22/45 series is much more limited. |
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Little OT here ... Will Mark 3 mags fit and function in a Mark lll 22/45? I don't think so - the grip angles are different. You sure about that? While the grip angles are different, the magazine don't align with the grip. In the 22/45 the magazine is inserted through the grip at the very rear at the bottom, but the feedlips of the magazine are very near the front of the grip at the top. Sorry, this is confusing, its really hard to explain, other than the actual magazine sits at a similar angle as the standard MK series even thought the grip angle is different. |
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I recently found a guy who uses the name "TechTeach", from Valparaiso, IN who makes grip panels that will fit on the Mark II and Mark III 22/45's (respectively, they are different) and have ordered a set for my Mark II. From what I've read and can see from the photos, he seems to have found a very workable and elegant solution to the problem for very little money (cheap bastard that I am, I even told him I thought he was charging too little for them, silly me!). They even come in different colors. I understand he has posted on this site and on others, specifically on rimfirecentral.com, for one example. I found him by doing a Google search for "22/45 grip panels".
Apparently this has developed only recently (as in over the summer of 2009). There is some drilling involved to get the screws seated, but that appears to be the extent of the changes necessary. The only other solution I found involved grinding the sides flat and installing 1911 panels. That's why I was so intent on finding a grip frame, I sure as hell didn't want to permanantly screw up one of my favorite pistols without a way to go back if I screwed it up. This way, if you don't like it, just plug 4 smallish holes and go back to the way it was. I also discussed with him a wrap around grip (with and without finger grooves) that he says he is currently developing. When I get them and get them installed, I'll take pics and post my impressions here. As I understand it, they are currently inbound, so it shouldn't be long. For me, the best part of this story is that he has apparently done the development andhe actually has a workable, shipping, product! Not vague promises of a concept that we will have to wait for a couple of years to see if it actually happens! Stay tuned, kiddies! This story ain't over, yet. |
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You sure about that? While the grip angles are different, the magazine don't align with the grip. In the 22/45 the magazine is inserted through the grip at the very rear at the bottom, but the feedlips of the magazine are very near the front of the grip at the top. Sorry, this is confusing, its really hard to explain, other than the actual magazine sits at a similar angle as the standard MK series even thought the grip angle is different. Looking at Midway's website they list different magazines. It looks like at the very least the baseplates are different. Mk III - 22/45 - |
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Keep an eye of gunbroker. I bought a stripped Mark II lower (blued steel) for $35. It took about three months of looking, but a seller in CA listed about 25 Mark I and Mark II frames in one week. They each got one or two bids and went cheap.
Now, I just need to figure out what parts I need to complete the lower, then I can swap it for a 22/45 lower, which is what I wanted in the first place... |
| The late model magazine bodies and followers are the same, but the base plates are decidedly different. Older Mark I and II magazine bodies won't work in the 22/45 because they lack the mag release notch in the side. I'm not certain, but I think the base plates on the Mark II 22/45 and the Mark III 22/45 may be different as well, although I 've heard that they will both work in either model, but don't have a Mark III to test. |