Posted: 12/19/2008 7:10:44 PM EDT
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When I see these kits for the Glock & 1911 the price all seem to be around $300 give or take & come with only one mag. Any feedback on the different manufacturers?
Bruce |
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The Advantage Arms conversion kit for my Glock 19 is pretty awesome. Good luck in finding one via an online vendor. AA also makes a kit for 1911 pistols but I didn't hear any feedback on that model. +1 on AA kit. I have one for my G17 and love it. I just wished they would contract with a company outside of California to make some high cap magazines. |
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The Advantage Arms conversion kit for my Glock 19 is pretty awesome. Good luck in finding one via an online vendor. AA also makes a kit for 1911 pistols but I didn't hear any feedback on that model. +1 on AA kit. I have one for my G17 and love it. I just wished they would contract with a company outside of California to make some high cap magazines. Hi cap mags and .22 pistols go together like cats and water. It's pretty dang hard to make a reliable mag for a rimmed round and stacking them in a straight non curved mag gets very problematic after about 10 rounds. It's just not worth it to companies as they would probably lose $$$ from the returns alone. Making a straight double stack hi cap that was reliable would be a nightmare and a reputable company would probably hate to besmirtch their good name on a non feeding unreliable POS mag. |
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I have a Kimber conversion that I shoot on a S&W frame. I'm at 1,000+ rounds with it so far, and function has been excellent. I've only ever shot it with high velocity .22lr, mostly Minimag or Aguila SE, so I can't say how it would work with standard velocity ammo. One reason I bought the Kimber was that it seemed like the mags were easier to find and less expensive (~$30 IIRC) than a lot of the other 1911 conversions. The Kimber mags are polymer, BTW, and have functioned just fine. I believe that it was well worth the $. It's a good training tool, as I can use my regular Milt Sparks holster with it.
It does not lock the slide back after the last shot, if that's important to you. -TB |
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I still have to get some pictures taken. If anyone is willing to post them, I will email the pictures to them.
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I have the AA Glock 17 conversion. It works awesome! Just got my mags converted to hold 13/14 rounds. Pretty easy really. Ozzy Details..... and Pics! |
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I've got the Kimber kit for my 1911. I've run all kinds of ammo through. The Golden Bullets and various other cheapies run OK. More high end stuff like Mini-Mags and Federal rounds run perfect though.
I thought the mags looked a little suspect at first, but they work just fine. |
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First, I had the original baseplate "lock plug" turned down and shortened. Doing this brought capacity up to 12/13 rounds. Then the guys were experimenting and cut the front round "leg" off the follower, leaving just enough for the coils of the spring to catch. Some more playing around and they decided the baseplate lock plug could be small enough to just hold the spring and have the nipple on it to hold the baseplate. This brought it up to about 14 rounds.
The 14th round can be hard to put in, so I only load to 13. It did feed fine with 14, but I didn't want to mess up the molded feed lips. I decided to play around with the rear follower guide. I started to shave length off it and it felt like it was going to make the 14th round easier to load, however, I haven't finished testing. It looks like the "lock plug" was the only real limiting factor. I thought the front leg was restricting capacity also, now I am not too sure. I will keep playing with the rear leg to determine if it restricts capacity. I have to be careful not to take too much off the rear leg as it has "wings" that appears to help guide and feed the follower smoothly. With 13 rounds, the magazines load and feed fine. I have about 200 rounds through them without any malfunctions. I was initially concerned with the the spring length/pressure, but it hasn't been a problem....yet. The machinist said the original plug was pretty hard, so he made the small "button plugs" out of aluminum. It is possible he is gonna make more if he can turn them over for a fair price. I think he said if he makes them, they will be anodized or powder coated. Quoted:
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The Marvel and the Advantage Arms conversions lock the barrel to the frame with a threaded rod. The Kimber and Ceiner conversions don't lock the barrel down, so their accuracy suffers.
The Kimber's I've seen are fine for plinking. For competition or serious target work, get a Marvel. Randy NRA Life Member |
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Be aware that most 1911 conversions only fit .45acp guns without ramped barrels.
If you have a ramped barrel or any caliber other than .45acp you need to get a Marvel. I had the Beretta .22 conversion and a 1911 conversion. Both were great fun and are excellent practice for the gun being converted. Glock conversion units will not give you the same trigger pull as normal, but all the hammer guns will. Don't expect them to be super target guns (except the Marvel unit #1), but most will shoot under 2" at 25 yards. |
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A "normal" 1911 barrel does not have a feed ramp. The feed ramp is part of the frame.
A "ramped" 1911 barrel has the feed ramp as part of the barrel. To install a ramped barrel in a 1911, you have to cut the frame. You can't switch between ramped and unramped barrels on the same gun. Generally, you can't switch calibers in a 1911 only by switching barrels, because the breechface dimensions on the slide are different. |
Also use the ciener 15 round mags and they work fine.
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My .22 conversion for the 1911 is a Marvel No. 1. It is a little like the S&W Model 41 in that the sights are mounted to the barrel with the slide below the barrel extension where the rear sight is mounted. Mine is nicely accurate and reliable. It is aluminum with a steel barrel and steel insert in the slide for the breach face.
I also have the .22 Kadet conversion for the CZ-75. It is similar to the Marvel unit, but it is all steel. Also nicely accurate and a good training aid for the CZ. |