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7/29/2010 6:08:09 AM EDT
I had some slop in the slide with a new Colt Combat Elite (carbon slide, stainless receiver) that was not to my liking. Had the slide fitted to the frame. Gunsmith stated that there was galling noted when picked up. I noted that the slide is not "tight". There is a slight horizontal play. Enough to notice a side to side rock. The question that I have is there only so much a gunsmith can do when it comes to this process? I would guess that you can tighten up the slide a little bit more in the vise but I am no expert. What would be the norm to expect (expensive process).
7/29/2010 6:25:46 AM EDT
[#1]
All depends on how much you want to pay.  Squeaze a slide to much it will crack. this only takes care of side to side play. For vertical I've seen guys deform the frame rails to fit the slide better. You could alyways weld the slide up and have it recut.  For that cost I just a new slide and refit.

Slide to frame fit has verry little to due with accuracy, just like a AR upper to lower fit.

Keep it oiled or greased to prevent galling.
7/29/2010 6:51:59 AM EDT
[#2]
I want to avoid the accuracy debate concering slide to frame fit. I am mainly concern in what is consider an acceptable job.
7/29/2010 7:22:04 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I want to avoid the accuracy debate concering slide to frame fit. I am mainly concern in what is consider an acceptable job.


Unless you are starting with an oversized slide and frame, you probably won't get a perfect fit.  As it was already mentioned, a lot of the higher end custom builders use welding if they are working with an existing frame to get the perfect fit.  

But as it was mentioned, barrel and bushing fit are MUCH more important.  IMO it would be better for your money to have a smith do adjustments in that area above all else.
7/29/2010 7:35:33 AM EDT
[#4]
Thanks, barrel fit up, etc is already complete. I wanted to tighten the slide up but do not know what an acceptable standard is. I have three other 1911's and the fit is much tighter on those pistols.
7/29/2010 7:49:10 AM EDT
[#5]



Quoted:



Unless you are starting with an oversized slide and frame, you probably won't get a perfect fit.  As it was already mentioned, a lot of the higher end custom builders use welding if they are working with an existing frame to get the perfect fit.  



But as it was mentioned, barrel and bushing fit are MUCH more important.  IMO it would be better for your money to have a smith do adjustments in that area above all else.






 
7/29/2010 7:50:22 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
I want to avoid the accuracy debate concering slide to frame fit. I am mainly concern in what is consider an acceptable job.


That is up to you.

If I paid a GS 600 for a slid to frame fit job. I want it les bear tight.  If I paid 6 I expect it to come back sloppy.
7/29/2010 7:52:21 AM EDT
[#7]



Quoted:


Thanks, barrel fit up, etc is already complete. I wanted to tighten the slide up but do not know what an acceptable standard is. I have three other 1911's and the fit is much tighter on those pistols.


I would say that the acceptable standard depends on the purpose.  A tight slide to frame fit will present its own set of problems for a gun that's exposed to dirt and sand.

 





7/29/2010 8:13:28 AM EDT
[#8]
Squeezing and peening is cheap. But it doesnt last and likes been said, you might not be able to take the side to side play out. Vertical you can peen the the hell out of the frame and eliminate it.



The only right way is the expensive way. TIG weld and remachine.