Posted: 6/23/2010 10:16:33 PM EDT
| I'm leaning heavily toward the Springfield, mostly due to quality and accuracy. Any reason why I should go with the Sig instead? |
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The simple fact that Sig decided to go with an external proprietary extractor ruined them for me. Not counting the fact that the former CEO of Kimber who (in many opinions) caused Kimbers QC problems is now the CEO of Sig ..................... whom is going though a steep decline in customer satisfaction themselves. |
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Excellent points. I know there's been a lot of unhappy chatter about the decline in QC for their regular line. I was hoping their 1911 line had somehow escaped that due to all of the "hand fitting." I love my 228. It's a tack driver and runs flawlessly, but then again it's an older model.
ETA- I just remembered handling one of their Blackwater 1911s at the store and being unimpressed by the slop. However there were significant handling marks and wear from being placed on and removed from the glass shelf, so I just chalked it up to it being an old shelf whore and thought maybe a NIB "target" model would be better. Oh well. What about Colt? Quite a few people on here swear by the Combat Elite. I remember a few years back the 1991 series and Gold Cups sucked. Has Colt turned around and upped their quality? |
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Excellent points. I know there's been a lot of unhappy chatter about the decline in QC for their regular line. I was hoping their 1911 line had somehow escaped that due to all of the "hand fitting." I love my 228. It's a tack driver and runs flawlessly, but then again it's an older model. ETA- I just remembered handling one of their Blackwater 1911s at the store and being unimpressed by the slop. However there were significant handling marks and wear from being placed on and removed from the glass shelf, so I just chalked it up to it being an old shelf whore and thought maybe a NIB "target" model would be better. Oh well. What about Colt? Quite a few people on here swear by the Combat Elite. I remember a few years back the 1991 series and Gold Cups sucked. Has Colt turned around and upped their quality? I would buy a Combat Elite over either, personally. The Trophy Match might be a bit more accurate, but I'm not going to be buying any more Springfields. |
Both of my SIG 1911s shoot to poa, are more accurate than I will ever be able to fully utilize, are as well built as any semiauto I've ever held, and completely reliable. SIG has had their issues, so has every other gun maker over the years, but their CS has been excellent in my personal experience. The Springer uses needles for 'checkering' on the front strap––never felt anything like it. Other than that, and some sand paper can fix it, it seem to be a well built weapon and SA is a top quality manufacturer. I don't think you'd go wrong with either. What feels better to you? It comes down to purely subjective criteria, as they are both fine weapons with the SIG being a bit cheaper. A Mustang guy isn't going to buy a Camaro, so some SA uber alles guys would never admit anything else is in their class––even when most of their 1911 pistols are made in Brazil. I never knock SA; just prefer SIGs. Also, drive a Corvette so aren't interested in Mustangs...
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Why? Why no more Springfield? Short answer: any gun short of the TRP is not going to be built well enough to suit me. The TRP / TM are built better but are still a poor value since they are edging into semi-custom territory. The Pro is a true semi-custom but it doesn't interest me. |
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Colts can still be hit or miss. Might be just some of the shitty ones still floating around I dont know. But I have seen some of the new ones that looked great. From what Ive seen out of SA and the Brazil guns lately they need to look out. Colt might just be taking back the under a grand market. The TRP and TM are great pistols but theyre getting overpriced. They are a 1200 dollar gun in my opinion and looking at the inflation rates they should still sell at that. Sig, well they just butchered the whole 1911 when they went with an external extractor and that travesty of a slide. |
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The TRP and TM are great pistols but theyre getting overpriced. They are a 1200 dollar gun in my opinion and looking at the inflation rates they should still sell at that. Agreed. I love my TRP but in retrospect for the money I spent I would have been happier with a LB TRS. The TRPs are worth $1300 OTD tops. The TM I would only spend $1000 on. |
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Why? Why no more Springfield? Short answer: any gun short of the TRP is not going to be built well enough to suit me. The TRP / TM are built better but are still a poor value since they are edging into semi-custom territory. The Pro is a true semi-custom but it doesn't interest me. You mean the TRP Professional, right? |
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Both of my SIG 1911s shoot to poa, are more accurate than I will ever be able to fully utilize, are as well built as any semiauto I've ever held, and completely reliable. SIG has had their issues, so has every other gun maker over the years, but their CS has been excellent in my personal experience. The Springer uses needles for 'checkering' on the front strap––never felt anything like it. Other than that, and some sand paper can fix it, it seem to be a well built weapon and SA is a top quality manufacturer. I don't think you'd go wrong with either. What feels better to you? It comes down to purely subjective criteria, as they are both fine weapons with the SIG being a bit cheaper. A Mustang guy isn't going to buy a Camaro, so some SA uber alles guys would never admit anything else is in their class––even when most of their 1911 pistols are made in Brazil. I never knock SA; just prefer SIGs. Also, drive a Corvette so aren't interested in Mustangs... Good points. The only thing I could find online demonstrating the Sig's accuracy was on Youtube... and that was just a concealed model, but it still grouped like a Sig. There's not much I'd trade my 228 for and not regret it. I did find a NIB Sig 1911 for $655 otd. Stainless, non-railed model with the new beavertail. Is this a good deal? |
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Can't comment on the SIG But you can't go wrong with the Trophy Match. I love mine.. http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac156/enumclawphoto/003.jpg Damn, that's purdy! That would be my preference, but I can't find them nib less than $900. Most are over a grand. 
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Why? Why no more Springfield? Short answer: any gun short of the TRP is not going to be built well enough to suit me. The TRP / TM are built better but are still a poor value since they are edging into semi-custom territory. The Pro is a true semi-custom but it doesn't interest me. You mean the TRP Professional, right? No, the TRP would the be minimum build quality. I wouldn't consider the Loaded line. |
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Can't comment on the SIG But you can't go wrong with the Trophy Match. I love mine.. http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac156/enumclawphoto/003.jpg Damn, that's purdy! That would be my preference, but I can't find them nib less than $900. Most are over a grand. If you can find them for less than $1000 NIB, that's a good deal. They are basically a Stainless TRP with adjustable sights. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |