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1/25/2010 8:07:41 PM EDT
I recently got a pretty good deal on this M1911. As far as I can tell, the slide does not match the frame (no "Model of 1911" markings on right side of slide). The previous owner said the gun functioned properly the last time he tried it.

Since I'm really not into safe queens, I really don't know what to do.


Should I throw it in the safe for 20 years?

Should I sell it and buy a newer 1911?

Should I get restored? (Don't think I can afford this.)


What would you do?








1/25/2010 8:43:22 PM EDT
[#1]
That's a neat gun with lots of history. I used to sell and trade weapons but, not anymore. I only collect now. Since I've started this no sell/trade rule 15 yrs ago, I have been a happier man. Keep it!
1/25/2010 9:28:04 PM EDT
[#2]
I'm an ass and I would probably receive an ass-whooping from most for saying this...but I'd fix it up.  Since it's not a perfect specimen I'd send it off and have someone really go over it, replace junk parts with quality units, get the frame/slide tightened up, and have someone re-finish the gun in a high gloss blue.  Basically, I'd turn it into a nice BBQ gun, and I'd shoot with it.  

My dad has lots of old guns that are worth between $2k-$4k each that are well over 130 years old...and we still use them.  I think the most respectable thing you can do to a piece of history is use it as it was intended, not let it rest in some oily rag for the next 30 years.
1/26/2010 4:08:12 AM EDT
[#3]
Sell to me so I can restore it...

Seriously, I would think about restoring it. Sure it don't match, but it would look pretty good re-blued.

What kind of condition is the frame in? It's kind of hard to tell..pitting or just surface rust?
1/26/2010 5:12:26 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
I'm an ass and I would probably receive an ass-whooping from most for saying this...but I'd fix it up.  Since it's not a perfect specimen I'd send it off and have someone really go over it, replace junk parts with quality units, get the frame/slide tightened up, and have someone re-finish the gun in a high gloss blue.  Basically, I'd turn it into a nice BBQ gun, and I'd shoot with it.  

My dad has lots of old guns that are worth between $2k-$4k each that are well over 130 years old...and we still use them.  I think the most respectable thing you can do to a piece of history is use it as it was intended, not let it rest in some oily rag for the next 30 years.


This what is the point of having a gun if you do not shot it.  Do you want to have a pistol you can only show people when they come to your house and you unvault it from the safe or do you want people at the gun range to be like what is that?  Yes it is a piece of history but start it on a new piece of history so your kids kids can say this use to be and now is.

Lots of gunsmiths out their would have a field day restoring or upgrading this.
1/26/2010 9:20:49 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
What kind of condition is the frame in? It's kind of hard to tell..pitting or just surface rust?


It's just a light surface rust, no pitting. It's not as bad as it looks in the pics.

Can anyone recommend a gunsmith that could clean it up and re-finish it? I found Doug Turnbull's site online, his restoration packages start at $1800.

1/26/2010 9:58:23 AM EDT
[#6]
I'd try Chuck Warner.  I'd ask for a more...traditional version of this:



i.e.  no front strap checkering or modern parts (sights, grip safety, hammer, non of that stuff), but the fit and finish of these pistols would be AWESOME.
1/26/2010 12:43:05 PM EDT
[#7]
Im not sure what it would be worth since it is in pretty rough shape. But I would get it appraised. Based on what he said I would either keep it as is or send it off to get restored the way I liked it
1/26/2010 1:29:00 PM EDT
[#8]
Some guns just are so much more interesting with the character showing as is. I would gently clean it removing any rust and them keep a coat of paste wax on it in between trips to the range.

1/26/2010 1:52:30 PM EDT
[#9]
that thing is sexy
1/26/2010 2:28:50 PM EDT
[#10]
may i ask how much it ran you ? I want one of my very own.
1/26/2010 4:01:38 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
may i ask how much it ran you ? I want one of my very own.


$600

I believe the blue book value was $1200-$1500. There were a lot of 1911s produced that year.

I still think I got a great deal even with the non-matching slide.

1/29/2010 7:34:09 PM EDT
[#12]
Have you cleaned it up yet?

I would like to see it without the rust.
1/30/2010 9:22:58 AM EDT
[#13]
Looks like the correct grip safety for that frame, but I believe the hammer is from a 1911A1.   No idea on the slide.

The most I'd do is have it bead blasted and reblued, but be aware that this will remove any historical value and place it firmly in the "shooter" value bracket.
1/30/2010 8:43:20 PM EDT
[#14]
I'm no expert but thats a wwII 1911a1 slide on a 1911 frame. most likely a arsenal rebuild. sometimes rearsonaled guns are stamped to denote which depot did the work  - like "AA" for anniston arsonal. go to the military portion of the 1911forum.com and you can get a lot of info about it.
not being all original make it a possible candidate for a rebuild /refinnish. but some folks like the look of a well used firearm. it has that "seen the elephant" look.