Posted: 9/3/2009 8:36:28 AM EDT
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Was thinking, hypothetically...
I keep hearing a lot of people wishing that someone made a new pistol in 7.62x25. A problem with it is that it's just about the longest autoloading pistol cartridge in common use. I looked at the dimensions of the cartridge, and compared it to .38 Super. They have the same base diameter, and .38 Super is 1.5mm shorter. Assuming you had the tools to cut the bore on a new barrel blank, how difficult would it be to make a 7.62Tok 1911 out of a .38 Super 1911? |
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The Red Chinese converted captured M1911 to use 7.62x25mm. They even modified the frames to use Tokarev magazines. (The PRC was on a kick to convert every surplus weapon they had to use standard ComBloc rounds. That's why you can find 7.62x39mm conversions for the Japanese LMG and the Bren. I've even seen 7.62x25mm conversions of the Thompson SMG and the Sten.)
If you didn't want to go to all the trouble of remachining the mag well, you could look at how some gunsmiths in the '70s converted 9x19mm pistols like the S&W Model 39 to use .38 Super. After modifying the chamber to accept the longer case, they simply used lightweight, short ogive bullets in handloaded .38 Super rounds to keep the cartridge over-all length compatible with the standard 9x19mm magazine. We are talking bullet weights that we'd normally associate with the .380 ACP today: 100gr and less. I suppose using bullets intended for the .32 ACP loaded in the 7.62x25mm case would allow them to fit a .38 Super magazine. |
| I am currently working on a 1911 in 7.62x25 for my self. A coworker gave me a Springfield 1911-A1 9mm barrel & slide his dad found in his garage. After I cleaned it up, it looked solid so I order a Foster frame. At this point it is a complete 9mm 1911. I have a 5" section of 30 cal barrel to use. I am trying to locate a reamer. I can order one from PTG, but I do not see a need for a $150 floating pilot match reamer for a blaster pistol. Typical pistol reamers are only $60-80, but it seems no one makes a 30 Tok or even 30 Mauser reamer as a stocking item any more. |
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Typical pistol reamers are only $60-80, but it seems no one makes a 30 Tok or even 30 Mauser reamer as a stocking item any more. These folks list a .30 Mauser reamer for rent. http://www.4-dproducts.com/display.php?group=Pistol+Calibers |
| The last one I saw was a converted GI Remington Rand. The ejection port was lengthened, and the front strap was very thin to handle standard length .30 Tok ammo. I didn't examine the barrel very closely. I probably should have bought it, but I'm not sure if I would have fired such a hot cartridge in such a dubiously modified old gun. |