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7/28/2009 9:57:09 AM EDT
I have been wanting to get a 1911 for some time, and decided to pull the trigger.  I put a deposit on a Kimber Tactical HD II, did I make a good choice or are there better options out there in the 1200 dollar range?
7/28/2009 10:08:32 AM EDT
[#1]
Just got rid of my Tac Pro II. Whiniest litte gun I have ever owned. Get your deposit back and go get a TRP, like yesterday.
7/28/2009 10:09:25 AM EDT
[#2]
You're going to get 100 different answers.

Personally, I think in that price range Kimber is very hard to beat but opions vary.
7/28/2009 10:41:51 AM EDT
[#3]
For $1200 I'd rather have an MC Operator or a Kimber Warrior.

Or add $200-$300 and get a TRP.
7/28/2009 10:48:10 AM EDT
[#4]
TRP?

Nevermind
7/28/2009 11:31:43 AM EDT
[#5]
I gave $900 for my Tactical Custom II a few years ago, but I got 30 lpi checkering, alloy frame, and night sights with it.  I'd have a hard time making the same choice today.
7/28/2009 11:45:31 AM EDT
[#6]
What about the sigs
7/28/2009 1:09:59 PM EDT
[#7]
I think you'll be alright. I would personally go with a Warrior, Operator, or TRP.
I do however like the looks of that 1911. Hope it turns out good for you.
7/28/2009 1:26:28 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
I think you'll be alright. I would personally go with a Warrior, Operator, or TRP.
I do however like the looks of that 1911. Hope it turns out good for you.


Your the second person that said to go with the Warrior.  Why?

I was on the phone today comparing the tactical model, and the Warrior, and besides looks they said there really isn't much difference.  I think the biggest difference is the frame (Warrior has a rail), and the sights.
7/28/2009 1:36:19 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I think you'll be alright. I would personally go with a Warrior, Operator, or TRP.
I do however like the looks of that 1911. Hope it turns out good for you.


Your the second person that said to go with the Warrior.  Why?

I was on the phone today comparing the tactical model, and the Warrior, and besides looks they said there really isn't much difference.  I think the biggest difference is the frame (Warrior has a rail), and the sights.


Because the Warrior doesn't have any of that Swartz safety bullshit.
7/28/2009 1:41:12 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
For $1200 I'd rather have an MC Operator or a Kimber Warrior.

Or add $200-$300 and get a TRP.


this

IF i had to put $1.2K down for a 1911
7/28/2009 1:56:06 PM EDT
[#11]
I also noticed the Guide rod is different between the two.  Seems the warrior is standard length which is favorable, over the full size in the tactical
7/28/2009 2:22:32 PM EDT
[#12]
Warrior vs. Tactical:

Novak Night sights > meprolight night sights
Rail > no rail
Series 70 firing system > swartz system
High ride beavertail grip > normal beavertail grip
GI guide rod > full-length guide rod
G10 grips > Kimber laminate grips

no front strap checkering < 30lpi front strap
no magwell < magwell
plastic MSH < steel MSH
normal match trigger < premium version match trigger

Otherwise they both have the same finish and the same features.  The Warrior has a lanyard loop and slightly extended magazine and slide release, the Tactical has checkering along the trigger guard.  The Warrior is $1400 MSRP vs. the Tacticals $1300 MSRP, but I see new Warriors all the time for $1200 or less.

Out of the two, I'd get the Warrior.
7/28/2009 11:15:28 PM EDT
[#13]
I like my Tactical custom 2, it has served me very well. They are also making a HD model that is a full wieght all steel gun and a tactical entry model with a rail. Warrior is also a great gun and you can have it anyway you want as long as you want a full wieght all steel gun with a rail.



Just reread your post and see you are thinking about the HD, if you want a rail then its a tough choice Tactical or Warrior, I would lean towards the Tactical. If you dont want a rail then its an easy one.
7/29/2009 3:50:06 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
I like my Tactical custom 2, it has served me very well. They are also making a HD model that is a full wieght all steel gun and a tactical entry model with a rail. Warrior is also a great gun and you can have it anyway you want as long as you want a full wieght all steel gun with a rail.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z207/2814V/gunsmay152009009.jpg

Just reread your post and see you are thinking about the HD, if you want a rail then its a tough choice Tactical or Warrior, I would lean towards the Tactical. If you dont want a rail then its an easy one.


Yeah im not looking for the rail, I want the classic look.  Plus Im not carrying so weight isn't an issue.
7/29/2009 5:14:51 AM EDT
[#15]
warrior does not have a plastic MSH.

7/29/2009 9:33:19 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
warrior does not have a plastic MSH.



Niether does the Tactical.



7/29/2009 10:16:08 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
warrior does not have a plastic MSH.



Niether does the Tactical.





I know, I was just clearing it up from artsohc's post about the comparisons.
7/29/2009 12:22:31 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Just got rid of my Tac Pro II. Whiniest litte gun I have ever owned. Get your deposit back and go get a TRP, like yesterday.



This.  Trust me.  Went the same route myself (Pro Raptor II).  I LOVE my TRP.  Avoid losing $$ when you decide to sell the Kimber.
7/29/2009 1:02:35 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
warrior does not have a plastic MSH.



Niether does the Tactical.





I know, I was just clearing it up from artsohc's post about the comparisons.


Really? Sweet, I learned something new.  Thanks for the clarification.
8/6/2009 8:28:33 AM EDT
[#20]
What do you guys think about a Colt Gold Cup,  I held one the other day and it seemed to be an nice piece, and $200 cheaper than the kimber?  Although now Im not rulling out even going a little cheaper and getting a SA Milspec  put the extra cash towards ammo
8/6/2009 8:37:01 AM EDT
[#21]




8/6/2009 8:43:01 AM EDT
[#22]
1200 bucks Id look around for a used Les Baer.
8/6/2009 3:54:51 PM EDT
[#23]
I paid under $1100 out the door 2 months ago for a Sig 1911 stainless with rail & night sights.
Put about 300 rounds thru it without a hicup.

https://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx182/quandcng/564C0015.jpg

oops! see next post.
8/6/2009 4:01:12 PM EDT
[#24]
http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy332/bucktown_rat/564C0015.jpg

Tricked out with Wilson Combat trigger and VZ G10 Alien grips
8/7/2009 1:08:55 PM EDT
[#25]
Ended up going with a Dan Wesson RZ-45
8/7/2009 1:33:06 PM EDT
[#26]
Had a Kimber Tactical Custom II and loved it.  Sold it to finance something else and am going to replace it with another Tact. II first chance I get.  My old one ran like water and shot great.  Should have never gotten rid of it.
8/7/2009 1:34:10 PM EDT
[#27]
OK.. so this is dupe from another thread along with a commercial photo, but since I just bought one,  I'm thinking everyone should have a Dan Wesson Valor.  

This is information I collected in comparing a Valor to a TRP.  It has mistakes, omissions, commissions, and other issues.  Some of it is likely correct though.

Dan Wesson Valor_________________________ Springfield TRP
Adjustable night sights__________________Drift adjustable night sights
Forged slide and frame__________________Forged slide and frame
Hand fit barrel / slide / frame______________Hand fit barrel / slide / frame
De-horn______________________________De-horn
Small parts polished and fitted_____________Dunno
Trigger job 4-5 lbs (4.5 lbs reported)________Trigger job 4-5lbs (5.5 lbs reported in review)
Single side EB thumb safety_______________Ambidextrous Springfield thumb safety
EB thumb safety, slide stop, grip safety______Springfield thumb safety, slide stop, grip safety
Greider trigger__________________________Springfield trigger
Wolff springs___________________________Dunno
DW match barrel and bushing______________Springfield match barrel
25 lpi checkering________________________20 lpi checkering
Cerakote finish over stainless______________Stainless or Black Armory Koat
Hand fitted / blended extractor (per review)___Drop in extractor (per review)
Undercut trigger guard____________________Regular trigger guard
VZ Grips_______________________________Checkered cocobola grips or G10
No MIM (per review)______________________MIM slide stop, firing pin retaining plate, hammer, disconnector, sear and maybe the grip safety (per review)
No front slide serrations___________________Front slide serrations
Slide Markings: 'Valor'_____________________Slide Markings: Springfield Armory, TRP, TACTICAL, Coat of Arms, Model 1911A1 Cal .45
Frame Markings: Serial number______________Frame Markings: Springfield Armrory, Address, Serial No.
Beveled magazine well____________________Two piece beveled magazine well
No key safety___________________________ Key activated safety
Best Gunwriter Accuracy: 1"@25yd_________Best Gunwriter Accuracy: 2.5"@25 yards (yes.. I know.. how scientific is this??)
Traditional bushing_______________________2 piece guide rod
$1300 (Budsgunshop)____________________$1385 (Armory Kote, Budsgunshop)

8/7/2009 1:46:00 PM EDT
[#28]
I've met the factory CZ, Dan Wesson rep for the Missouri area, nice enough guy. Don't remember his name. He brought lots of samples that day in 1911's and long guns. Nice fit and finish. He asked what I thought of them and I had to be honest. Hadn't spent any time around the product. The 1911's he had were slick looking and the lines flowed together nicely. It will be good to get an opinion from someone who can give an unbiased report...........  She's a nice lookin pistol Spook.
8/12/2009 4:32:09 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
I have been wanting to get a 1911 for some time, and decided to pull the trigger.  I put a deposit on a Kimber Tactical HD II, did I make a good choice or are there better options out there in the 1200 dollar range?


I've got the SIS full size & love it, it's tight, smooth & as accurate as any. It will fire anything you feed it. It was designed for & with the input from the LAPD so it got a lot of extra attention, since it was going to protect the law. When a firearm is built for the law or the military..It's Built Good. Buy it ....it's a hell of a good pistol ...unless you want your's to look like everyone else's? As far the serrations go? I changed the grips & extended mag-wel . If it's designed for cops or military
It's get's a lot of attention.