Posted: 3/24/2009 7:09:03 PM EDT
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So I just bought a used Springfield Champion the other day. It came with one factory mag and a free box of ammo, Magtech hollows. I filled up my new mag, slammed it home, pulled back the slide and let er rip..... and it stays back lol.
The slide is catching the top round, jamming the bullet and a tiny bit of the casing into the barrell, and then stops. I had to pull the slide back and let it go approximately 3-4 times to get the shell to go into the chamber. I then tried Wolf fmj, same thing. Blazer fmj, same thing. So i'm thinkin this might be a mag issue, since there are no burrs on the face of the slide or inside the chamber. Any ideas? 
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I'll parrot the others. Extractor is the problem. Too tight or bottom corner of hook too sharp. Stopping the back of the round from riding up the breach face. I had a gun doing the same thing. Read and followed the directions in the Bill Wilson article in the f.aq./link at top of the page.
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| I'm having this exact problem myself. I had a Charles Daly ECS that I bought used on 2-14-09 and had nothing but problems with feeding after a few mags of ammo. It was fine and crazy accurate at first but developed this issue and all I heard fom everybody was "get a colt or kimber". Sometimes i could get a full mag through it, sometimes I had to cycle two or three rounds before one would chamber. I tried a new act-mag magazine that had a obviously stiffer spring and thought it would work and had the same problem. CD offered to fix it for free if I sent it to them but they said their turn around was AT LEAST eight weeks. Rather than wait, I unloaded at a gun show last weekend. I lost about $50 on it but to get rid of it I figured "win some, lose some" applied. So...............after catching so much hell here on another thread for having a Daly, I bought a used stainless Colt MK IV series 80 Officers model made in 1993 and in excellent shape for $625 ($695 with tax and BG check). I thought I'd hit the jakpot with this one. I mean, it's a Colt, right? Right.........off..........the.....bat...........jams, jams, and more jams. UMC, Winchester and Hydrashok, all of them 230 gr, same results. I'm willing to try another mag and maybe this extractor thing when I get the time to read up on how to do it but I'm seriously considering unloading this one too and getting the Taurus PT 1911 I'd planned on in the first place. I don't mind working on stuff and fixing problems but I want a gun to go bang everytime I pull the trigger and don't have the time to fool with it and run to the range to test every little tweak. Is it common for 1911's to have this problem? Is it because it's compact? If the problem is found and fixed will it ever come back? |
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Try a mag from one of the usual suspects (Tripp, Wilson, Colt) and lose the Magtech ammo. My Springer MC Operator ate 200 rounds of Magtech without a hiccup. I don't think the ammo's the trouble. It's an over-tensioned, if that's the word, extractor just like everyone else said. |
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I'm having this exact problem myself. I had a Charles Daly ECS that I bought used on 2-14-09 and had nothing but problems with feeding after a few mags of ammo. It was fine and crazy accurate at first but developed this issue and all I heard fom everybody was "get a colt or kimber". Sometimes i could get a full mag through it, sometimes I had to cycle two or three rounds before one would chamber. I tried a new act-mag magazine that had a obviously stiffer spring and thought it would work and had the same problem. CD offered to fix it for free if I sent it to them but they said their turn around was AT LEAST eight weeks. Rather than wait, I unloaded at a gun show last weekend. I lost about $50 on it but to get rid of it I figured "win some, lose some" applied. So...............after catching so much hell here on another thread for having a Daly, I bought a used stainless Colt MK IV series 80 Officers model made in 1993 and in excellent shape for $625 ($695 with tax and BG check). I thought I'd hit the jakpot with this one. I mean, it's a Colt, right? Right.........off..........the.....bat...........jams, jams, and more jams. UMC, Winchester and Hydrashok, all of them 230 gr, same results. I'm willing to try another mag and maybe this extractor thing when I get the time to read up on how to do it but I'm seriously considering unloading this one too and getting the Taurus PT 1911 I'd planned on in the first place. I don't mind working on stuff and fixing problems but I want a gun to go bang everytime I pull the trigger and don't have the time to fool with it and run to the range to test every little tweak. Is it common for 1911's to have this problem? Is it because it's compact? If the problem is found and fixed will it ever come back? Um, yeah, NEVER buy a Colt 1911. Sorry you were misled. Good for you that you only lost $50 on the Daly! That rocks. My Daly was also a FTF MFer, with no improvement after a trip to the company. I've had 1911s from Springfield, ParaOrdnance (2 including my carry gun), IMI, and CD, and only one gave me a problem. Any company can have a bad gun come off the line. Kimber and Springer have fewer than others, and although Para has a spotty rep in some circles, mine have been superb. |
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I'm having this exact problem myself. I had a Charles Daly ECS that I bought used on 2-14-09 and had nothing but problems with feeding after a few mags of ammo. It was fine and crazy accurate at first but developed this issue and all I heard fom everybody was "get a colt or kimber". Sometimes i could get a full mag through it, sometimes I had to cycle two or three rounds before one would chamber. I tried a new act-mag magazine that had a obviously stiffer spring and thought it would work and had the same problem. CD offered to fix it for free if I sent it to them but they said their turn around was AT LEAST eight weeks. Rather than wait, I unloaded at a gun show last weekend. I lost about $50 on it but to get rid of it I figured "win some, lose some" applied. So...............after catching so much hell here on another thread for having a Daly, I bought a used stainless Colt MK IV series 80 Officers model made in 1993 and in excellent shape for $625 ($695 with tax and BG check). I thought I'd hit the jakpot with this one. I mean, it's a Colt, right? Right.........off..........the.....bat...........jams, jams, and more jams. UMC, Winchester and Hydrashok, all of them 230 gr, same results. I'm willing to try another mag and maybe this extractor thing when I get the time to read up on how to do it but I'm seriously considering unloading this one too and getting the Taurus PT 1911 I'd planned on in the first place. I don't mind working on stuff and fixing problems but I want a gun to go bang everytime I pull the trigger and don't have the time to fool with it and run to the range to test every little tweak. Is it common for 1911's to have this problem? Is it because it's compact? If the problem is found and fixed will it ever come back? I think you dumped a good pistol and lost money on an easy fix. Got to have a good solid hold on those SA's, no limp wristing or you'll have issues. Not on stripping the first round off a mag though. Extractor, then mag. |
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I'll parrot the others. Extractor is the problem. Too tight or bottom corner of hook too sharp. Stopping the back of the round from riding up the breach face. I had a gun doing the same thing. Read and followed the directions in the Bill Wilson article in the f.aq./link at top of the page. J This. Extractor tension too tight. First thing to look at, anyway. And yes, try it with a different mag. |
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Update:
Well new mags will have to wait as I just returned from a deployment and am currently trying to obtain employment with somebody. BUT, what I did do was test it with some fmj Wolf and Blazer, same issue. I know the extractor is not the problem because I can easily slide a round under the extractor and fully onto the bolt face. So I went with my original theory of the mag, recreated the problem (which was easy, stick a mag in and let the slide go lol) and really studied how it looked. By looking at it I was starting to think the problem was the feed lips. Sooooo I got out the ole trusty needle-nose pliers, slightly adjusted the feed lips, and went out for testing today. 150 rounds without a jam or failure to feed. So the problem is/was the mag. I'm not gonna depend on a modified mag, so I guess I'm gonna cash in my pennies to get a new one hehe. Hopefully a job comes my way soon and I can actually buy some stuff that I need. 
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