Posted: 2/1/2009 7:35:30 PM EDT
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Hey, I know I asked this a while back, but with current legislation and political environment I find myself speeding up my search for a 1911 and I would like some help on picking one out.
I am looking for as close to a WWII era 1911 that can be had for around or under $700 or an actual 1911 from WWII. I was looking at either the Mil-Spec of the GI models of the Springfield 1911. Thanks for any opinions that you might offer |
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Auto Ordnance
Basically identical to the WWII 1911 A1. They are more reliable now that Kahr Arms came onboard. This is the closest you are gonna get. The top 1911PKZSE is the correct one. It has the era appropriate grips. |
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Auto Ordnance Basically identical to the WWII 1911 A1. They are more reliable now that Kahr Arms came onboard. This is the closest you are gonna get. The top 1911PKZSE is the correct one. It has the era appropriate grips. IIRC aren't the slides and frames cast, and aren't the internals MIM? If no, disregard this D-bag comment: "closest you're gunna get huh...  "
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Auto Ordnance Basically identical to the WWII 1911 A1. They are more reliable now that Kahr Arms came onboard. This is the closest you are gonna get. The top 1911PKZSE is the correct one. It has the era appropriate grips. IIRC aren't the slides and frames cast, and aren't the internals MIM? If no, disregard this D-bag comment: "closest you're gunna get huh... "You are right. The frame is cast and the slide is barstock. I don't know if the internals are MIM. They might be. But according to many sources, the quality and reliability has improved dramatically since Kahr came in 1999 I think. Here is a complete review of it 1911 Review Of course its not identical to the original but for under $700, I think this is the best option. Besides I have heard that in the Springfield G.I., there have been sporadic reports of slides cracking or breaking, but this seems to be a matter of poor heat-treating rather than one of materials...resulting in the slides being either too soft, or too hard, which makes them brittle. Also the Springfield G.I. isn't aesthetically true to the original. If he wanted, he could go buy the right parts such as the correct grips, a checkered slide stop, checkered mag release, a GI thumb safety, and change the ILS mainspring housing. EIther way, I would suggest the Auto Ordnance or the Springfield G.I. with some minor mods. |
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Having purchased a Springfield GI model a couple of years ago, I can tell you its a good gun.
I feed mine reloaded ammo for the most part. I am using 230 gr RNL bullets and occasionally FMJ ammo. Cleaning, when necessary, is a breeze. It practically disassembles its self and goes back together just as easy. JMB was a genius. Personally, I like the ergonomics of the WWII version and this one is right on. Even the small sights. The hammer does not bite me either. 
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Originally Posted By majnemesis:
....Besides I have heard that in the Springfield G.I., there have been sporadic reports of slides cracking or breaking, but this seems to be a matter of poor heat-treating rather than one of materials...resulting in the slides being either too soft, or too hard, which makes them brittle. Also the Springfield G.I. isn't aesthetically true....yada blah yada Just where have you heard these "sporadic reports"? I for one would like to know. I frequent a lot of gun forums and have NEVER heard of one of these reports. |
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Originally Posted By majnemesis:
....Besides I have heard that in the Springfield G.I., there have been sporadic reports of slides cracking or breaking, but this seems to be a matter of poor heat-treating rather than one of materials...resulting in the slides being either too soft, or too hard, which makes them brittle. Also the Springfield G.I. isn't aesthetically true....yada blah yada Just where have you heard these "sporadic reports"? I for one would like to know. I frequent a lot of gun forums and have NEVER heard of one of these reports. Heard it from a gunsmith. Maybe he was stupid. |
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Just got back from a local gun store, my father and I were all ready to pick up the G.I. Model of the Springfield, but when the guy behind the counter said that the three that he had used where shooting "beach ball" sized groups at 15 yards.
Has anyone else heard anything like this? |
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Just got back from a local gun store, my father and I were all ready to pick up the G.I. Model of the Springfield, but when the guy behind the counter said that the three that he had used where shooting "beach ball" sized groups at 15 yards. Has anyone else heard anything like this? Maybe the "guy behind the counter" can't shoot for shit.... OR, maybe he was trying to sell you a more expensive gun. |
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Just got back from a local gun store, my father and I were all ready to pick up the G.I. Model of the Springfield, but when the guy behind the counter said that the three that he had used where shooting "beach ball" sized groups at 15 yards. Has anyone else heard anything like this? No, their biggest issue is a crappy extractor and sometimes a weak recoil spring. Both can be fixed for $30.00 or so. Maybe HE can only shoot beachball sized groups, I can believe that................ |