Posted: 12/31/2008 6:05:33 PM EDT
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I want my first .45 to be a 1911 model but every time I handle one I find the slide release to be very awkward to push with my thumb. Is there a custom way to bring it more towards the back of gun or a different technique besides using my dominate thumb?
Also I have shot a 1911 (some CZ model) and I really liked the way it shot, felt, looked etc. I hope my short thumb doesn't stop me from loving this gun... |
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<a href="http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m249/Allons11/guns/extsliderel.jpg" target="_blank">http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m249/Allons11/guns/th_extsliderel.jpg</a> Just get an extended slide release, around $30.00 at Brownell's. Easy Fix  And a common cause of many problems. |
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The "slide stop" is exactly where it is supposed to be. Ditto. Damn plastic guns moved the slide stop release further back from its proper position. I agree with this completely. My thumb doesn't allow lock back on many types of pistols, except the 1911 and HiPower. |
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The first thing I changed about my 1911 after I started getting used to it was the slide release, I upgraded to a Wilson extended slide release and it has never given me any reason to regret. The gun isn't loaded with "clips".. and they don't have a "slide release" it's a slide "Stop" to release the slide, you pull back and let go... 
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The first thing I changed about my 1911 after I started getting used to it was the slide release, I upgraded to a Wilson extended slide release and it has never given me any reason to regret. The gun isn't loaded with "clips".. and they don't have a "slide release" it's a slide "Stop" to release the slide, you pull back and let go... IMO you are only partly correct. Look at Wilson Combat's 1911 parts list or Brownell's. They know more about the terminology than I do & show the standard slide stop as "slide stop". - The extended ones are shown as "Extended Slide Release" I think they are longer so its easier to "release" the slide with just your thumb. They have pictures & everything! Would'nt want anyone to order one of these problematic parts by mistake. Thanks! |
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If I use My strong side thumb to release the slide, I do it by camming the grip to the left with my fingers, (making the muzzle point a bit to the left) then my thumb can trigger the slide stop.
But everything I have heard is that sling shotting the slide is better for the pistol, esp the hammer/sear interface. |
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Slide release and slide stop are largely symantics.
Using your thumb to release the slide is fastest, no real way around it. Hence it's basic universal use in games/compitition. However partly due to different slide stop locations (1911s, SIGs, Glocks, etc., etc.), many training organizations teach the sling shot because it works with every pistol I'm aware of. If you are prone to the carry gun of the month/week or whatever, this will work with any you might carry basically. There is also the school of thought that the slight extra amount of rearward slide travel, with slingshot, gives you just a tiny bit of extra momentum to positively chamber that top round in the mag. I do agree though that most extended slide stops cause problems. My personal experience was a no name extended stop installed without fitting in a Remington Rand 1911a1 I have since sold a while ago. |
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<a href="http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m249/Allons11/guns/extsliderel.jpg" target="_blank">http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m249/Allons11/guns/th_extsliderel.jpg</a> Just get an extended slide release, around $30.00 at Brownell's. Easy Fix And a common cause of many problems. Other than the weight being a detriment to slide locking, what other problems are caused by this? I haven't got a whole lot of trouble with the standard slide stop/release, but I've considered going to a slightly enlarged [but not extended] version for my 1911, and am curious what problems I might encounter when doing this. I do frequently use the slide stop to release the slide on a loaded magazine, though I also slingshot, above all, I like the flexibility of being able to do both. I know it "goes against conventional wisdom," but so do front cocking serrations, and I also prefer to have them, too. 
I will not give up reliability for it, though. Are there any other problems, and would that also apply to so-called "tactical" slide stops that are not extended, but have a larger engagement surface for the thumb? Thanks, ~Augee |
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The Slide stop is in the correct position.
Bill Wilson says in his book that the extended slide stop is the dumbist thing he sells, but people keep asking for them so he continues to sell them. The slide stop in part of the barrel fitting, it's what pushes the barrel up into the locked postition, at also hold the gun together. think twice before replacing yours with a crappy gunshow part. the correct method is to slap the new mag into the magwell with your weakhand, then as your re-aquire your two handed grip, hit the slide stop with your WEAKHAND THUMB If you're holding the gun correctly, it's VERY FAST 
Todd Jarret video |
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The first thing I changed about my 1911 after I started getting used to it was the slide release, I upgraded to a Wilson extended slide release and it has never given me any reason to regret. The gun isn't loaded with "clips".. and they don't have a "slide release" it's a slide "Stop" to release the slide, you pull back and let go... The 1911 patent issued to Browning calls the catch both a stop and a release. It is specifically pointed out that an advantage of the design is that the slide can be released by pressing down on the serrated tab of the slide release. |
| Just went through a course where they were teaching the slingshot method by using the fingers and heel (thumb pointing toward your chest) of the left hand(for r. handed shooters) while keeping the weapon at eye level to allow you to maintain a visual on your target. After seating a mag, rotate the slide into your left hand, slingshot the slide, and then replace your left hand on the weapon as quickly as possible. The slingshot method also allows for extra slide travel when charging a weapon that is dirty. I know its not alot of extra travel but it sure doesn't hurt anything. With a little practice you will be surprised how fast you can do this. The point is, economy of movement. Move fast, shoot slow. |
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The Slide stop is in the correct position. Bill Wilson says in his book that the extended slide stop is the dumbist thing he sells, but people keep asking for them so he continues to sell them. The slide stop in part of the barrel fitting, it's what pushes the barrel up into the locked postition, at also hold the gun together. think twice before replacing yours with a crappy gunshow part. the correct method is to slap the new mag into the magwell with your weakhand, then as your re-aquire your two handed grip, hit the slide stop with your WEAKHAND THUMB If you're holding the gun correctly, it's VERY FAST http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/derek45/HGcombatg_100206D.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/derek45/RobLeatham.jpg Todd Jarret video 1:51 into this video he picks up a 1911 and pushes the slide foward. It doesn't appear that there is any slingshot method or dropping the slide. I have also noticed in som speed steel matches that they appear to be pushing the slide foward. Anybody know how that works. |
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1:51 into this video he picks up a 1911 and pushes the slide foward. It doesn't appear that there is any slingshot method or dropping the slide. I have also noticed in som speed steel matches that they appear to be pushing the slide foward. Anybody know how that works. His weak hand - which "pushes" the slide forward - is on the left side of the pistol, where the slide stop is. He appears to deactivate the slide stop with one or more of the fingers on his weak hand while retarding the forward motion of the slide with the thumb and web of his weak hand. I just tried it, and I can _roughly_ replicate the motion doing just this. |
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<a href="http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m249/Allons11/guns/extsliderel.jpg" target="_blank">http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m249/Allons11/guns/th_extsliderel.jpg</a> Just get an extended slide release, around $30.00 at Brownell's. Easy Fix +1 I love mine!
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1:51 into this video he picks up a 1911 and pushes the slide foward. It doesn't appear that there is any slingshot method or dropping the slide. I have also noticed in som speed steel matches that they appear to be pushing the slide foward. Anybody know how that works.[ When Todd picks up the gun it's empty and locked back. He's slowing the forward motion because the chamber is empty. dropping the slide on an empty 1911, is not good. The recoil spring is the only thing "pushing the slide forward" |