Posted: 9/2/2008 5:09:03 PM EDT
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Ok I will admit it I'm a 1911 junkie, I ended up getting a MC Operator and a Warrior and will decide which I like and give the other to my son. That said I would like to get now either a Springfield Pro or a Wilson CQB or CQB Elite but with their price there will only be one. Which and why? Ifigure on selling a couple of my Kimbers that have been de MIM'd to pull this off (plus I'm not 100% sure of the series 2 safety). Thanks |
It's what I have seen a couple times in the gun shop.  I still prefer Les Baers. |
The Pro is better fitted than the CQB. My CQB had a very rough filet cut on the bottom of the ejection port. The breechface had an imperfection in the left corner that would dent the edge of the case. Wilson corrected the problem, but returned the gun with .011" of clearance etween the barrel hood and the breechface. My Pros have .003" maybe. In terms of barrel and bushing fit, it is not even a contest. It is clear that Wilson likes them loose and Springfield Custom likes them tight. In my experience, tight is better for accuracy. Either gun is 100% reliable. Wilson actually test fires all their guns with fully loaded and partially loaded magazines using SWC ammo. I dunno what Springfield does, but neither of my Pros has jammed and they have over 800 rounds between them to date. |
I am with you. The 1911 purist will tell you front cocking serrations don't belong on the gun. I, however, love them and can press check easier with them....besides, for the real gunfighter, a Wilson CQB is what you nedd!  .....a PRO is nice also, but plan on wearing gloves when you shoot it as the 20lpi is brutal on the fingers. Just ask "dalkyr". He knows all too well. And there's pics to back it up.
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I've owned Professionals, CQB's and a CQB Elite. The Professional is the only one I still own. There was nothing wrong with the Wilson's, the Professional is just that much better IMO. You cannot go wrong with either, it's a personal choice with these two top notch 1911's.
While Wilson is excellent, you are way off base on this one. We are not talking about standard SA 1911's. You have actually SEEN a Professional haven't you....or is this the typical ARFcom answer - I heard that one is better..... There is no difference in the fit and finish between the two, they are both as good as a semi-custom gets. |
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I was in the same situation as you, about a month ago. I took the advice of most here and bought the Pro and havent looked back. While I am sure you will be equally happy with either one, I would recommend the Pro, because of the great success I have had with mine. Let it be known I have never shot or handled a Wilson. And dont let 20lpi make the decision for you, You will get used to it, and want nothing but 20lpi. |
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Handled and shot both. Both are excellent choices. It really comes down to what fits better for you. I have a Wilson, but I have owned Springers too. What you don't want to do is make your decision based on the flame war this thread is bound to turn into. Find either a shop or an individual in your area that has them and handle them yourself. |
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As said above, both are excellent choices. Wilson and Springfield both have excellent customer service, so in the unlikely event that you ever had a problem you would be well taken care of. But my choice goes to the Wilson, but I am a little biased because I just bought a CQB Compact. I also have a Les Baer TRS that is amazing in every way. You may want to take a look at those as well. The Baers are a little more cost effective but in my opinion every way equal as the other two choices. |
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Both are outstanding semi-custom 1911 pistols, IMO two of the best you can get, if not the best. Both shops have a reputation of outstanding work as well as customer service. You cannot go wrong with either. That being said each has different specs and you need to decide what is applicable to your needs. I prefer the PRO for several personal reasons. I have large hands and find that the S&A magwell fills out the grip length just perfect for me, in fact I prefer a magwell on all my 1911's. I also have no use for FCS. For me, it is just as easy and quick, especially in the dark, to do a chamber check with the rear cocking serrations, and it keeps my fingers safely away from the muzzle. I also like the fact that the specs of the PRO outlined in a government contract, and more PRO's are currently being carried by LEO's than just about any other current 1911. Lastly, the Springfield Custom shop is one of the most underrater and unappreciated custom shops out there. Their work is phenominal, turn around is great, and prices are damn fair. What I don't like about the Pro is the fact that the frame is not high cut and the 20 lpi checkering. Depending on your hands, it may tear them up during a class. You also can only get a PRO as is, no mods. You can have the CQB built your way. Decide what works for you and be condifent knowing you are buying a 1911 from one of the 2 best builders in the industry. |
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The answer is so obvious I'm surprised no one else has said it. Since you bought the operator and the warrior and are going to decide which you like best and give the other to your son . . . Buy both, shoot them and give the one you don't like to me. Where's that smiley taking a bow when you need it. |
| My Pro is the cheapest 1911 I own, yet happens to be my favorite and gets the most trigger time. It is the only non-custom 1911 I would be willing to purchase, as I believe Springfield Armory at least attempts to build to a known standard. However, the Pro is not the holy grail that the 1911Forum.com would have you believe. Many, including mine, require minor work to be considered serviceable. Despite this, it remains my pick for an off-the-shelf 1911. |
Beautimus! |
| I have owned a Wilson Protector and still own a Springfield Pro. Both are excellent weapons and both have a great deal of craftmanship that go into them. That said I still own my Pro and I do not own the Wilson. I prefer the Pro over the Wilson mainly for cosmetic reasons (20lpi and no front serrations). Springfield also does not have an approved ammo list which Wilson does. That said, I never fired anything not on the list through my Wilson but I have heard they will shoot most anything. The Pro has shot everything I have put through it. Which mostly consist of A&E, Speer Lawman, and Speer Gold Dot. My personal opinion, go with the Pro. Mine has a rail and I intend to also get one without for off duty. |
What did you have to do to make yours servicable? |
| I have a Wilson. I would like to try other great (and terribly expensive) 1911s like the Springfield, but the Wilson has been so good to me that the next time I have semi custom $ burning a hole in my pocket I feel it should go to support them and their excellent product. |
Had to fix the hammer-follow. |