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6/26/2008 7:18:00 PM EDT
I'm looking to add a single stack commander size 1911 to my armory as a carry gun and I recently looked over a Sig 1911 "platinum elite carry" with a 4.25" pipe that looks like a pretty nice set-up.

I own a bunch of .45's ((7) ParaOrdnance, (1) H&K USP Tactical, (1) Colt Gold Cup but have never owned a Sig in any configuration.

What is the general opinion on this pistol in terms of quality and function?

Thanks  
6/26/2008 7:48:27 PM EDT
[#1]
The new ones that say SIGSAUER 1911 have no problems. The SigArms GSR stamped ones are hit or miss so beware.
6/27/2008 8:19:40 AM EDT
[#2]
The "revloution" is actually the newer models after SIG brought them all in house.  They are fantastic.  Match grade barrel and trigger sear, forged parts with exception to cast beavertail and thumb saftey.  Mine runs like a top.
6/27/2008 8:28:32 AM EDT
[#3]
The receiver is forged?
6/27/2008 9:50:49 AM EDT
[#4]

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The receiver is forged?


last i heard, SIG still used cast frames...OST for up-to date answer
6/27/2008 12:52:43 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The receiver is forged?


last i heard, SIG still used cast frames...OST for up-to date answer


Sig has never used cast uppers.  They are forged.
6/27/2008 4:03:54 PM EDT
[#6]

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Quoted:

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The receiver is forged?


last i heard, SIG still used cast frames...OST for up-to date answer


Sig has never used cast uppers.  They are forged.


while "nitpicking" may be selectively acceptable with our terminology (i.e. unanimously attacking the use of "clip" while accepting the term "M1911" applied to commercial handguns) it really aggrevates me when the use of AR terminology comes into play with handguns. Of course nobody should care what aggrevates me, but when it comes into play is in such cases as  this where disinformation forms from such sloppiness.

An AR-15 has 2 receivers: the upper, and the lower (of which is considered the firearm), whereas a handgun has a frame and a slide. It doesn't have an upper... it doesn't have a lower. Upper and lower refer to parts of a receiver group, which is not the case in a pistol. So, fine, people call a slide an upper and a frame a lower and we all get on with life, peeved or not. Well, as we can all see in this post, one person asks about a receiver, another answers the question with respect to the frame, and a third (intentionally or not) replies to the "frame post" with respect to an "upper", which would be a slide. one person is talking about one thing and the other (in response) is talking about something completely different

Other than that, all I can say is that I was under the impression that Sig uses cast frames and that their 1911s (or their "1911-patterened automatics" ) are put together better than their initial run.

I'm not in to variant-styled 1911s (those that have a shape and style, that deviates noticably from the classic profile), but I think that Sig has made an attractive design.
6/27/2008 8:08:22 PM EDT
[#7]
When SIG stopped using Caspian to make their frames they switched to forged receivers.

I have a GSR that was worked over by George Smith. Its a great gun now but I would not buy another.

6/27/2008 9:44:05 PM EDT
[#8]
How do you know it's forged?
6/27/2008 9:54:16 PM EDT
[#9]

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How do you know it's forged?


How do you know they're not?

6/27/2008 10:16:17 PM EDT
[#10]
That's an inappropriate response. You made an assertion that you cannot prove.
6/28/2008 7:49:29 AM EDT
[#11]

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That's an inappropriate response. You made an assertion that you cannot prove.


I asked SIG and that is what they told me. If you have something that would prove otherwise feel free to post it.


6/28/2008 7:51:20 AM EDT
[#12]

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How do you know it's forged?


How do you know they're not?

I took a hammer to it. Sounds just like my Colt frame, "PING".
6/28/2008 7:52:06 AM EDT
[#13]
Then why din't you say that earlier? Or are you making things up?
6/28/2008 8:10:36 AM EDT
[#14]

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Then why din't you say that earlier? Or are you making things up?


You questioned a poster without any first hand information to say other wise...and now you're suggesting I am lying in order to cast doubt on what I've said. If you have something that says other wise then post it.




6/28/2008 12:47:11 PM EDT
[#15]
I asked a simple question. You responded. I asked for a source. You responded inappropriately. I called you on it. You then named your source. What would a normal person think?

Do you think "How do you know it's not?" is an appropriate response to a request for a source of your information?
6/28/2008 1:26:51 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
I asked a simple question. You responded. I asked for a source. You responded inappropriately. I called you on it. You then named your source. What would a normal person think?

Do you think "How do you know it's not?" is an appropriate response to a request for a source of your information?


If you have something that would indicate what I said was incorrect then please post it. If you have something that would indicate SIG currently uses castings then please post it.



6/28/2008 1:59:21 PM EDT
[#17]
Pick one up and look at it internally, you can see it is forged and not casted.  The difference between this and my Springfield loaded is readily apparent.
6/29/2008 1:08:00 AM EDT
[#18]
I have two and love them. And I have some fine 1911's to compare them too. LB's, Wilson, NightHawk, plus others. Their slides are forged, of coarse.
Their frames have always been cast. ANd still are to my knowledge. I have a Sig Sauer railed model and a SigArms CCO. If anyone has any knowledge otherwise please respond with facts. If not I will call Sig Monday.
6/29/2008 4:39:22 AM EDT
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6/29/2008 8:26:22 AM EDT
[#20]

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media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=3278


SGB, 918V seems very knowledgeable about 1911's so if he has something solid honestly I'd like to see it. I'm not married to SIG casting or forging but rather only going off of what they told me. The SIG I have also does not look like the original Caspian castings, while that is not conclusive it is certainly lends itself to what SIG stated when I asked a year and a half ago.

Either way, the SIG 1911 I have works well now that George Smith fixed it but based on the poor CS I received from SIG, and multiple failed attempts to fix manufacturers defect sand replacements, I won't buy another.

6/29/2008 10:19:02 AM EDT
[#21]
Actually from their description on their site, it sounds like they are not forged or cast, but machined.


The 1911 pistols from SIG SAUER® feature all stainless steel frames and slides machined to exacting tolerances and hand-fitted to insure reliability and performance.


To me, that sounds like they are cnc'd out of a block of stainless steel.