Warning

 

Close
Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Cancel Confirm
AR15.COM
6/6/2008 11:21:00 AM EDT
Springfield SS 1* Yost-Bonitz as new for $1500.

That sound like a decent deal?  Near as I can tell it looks like it is but wanted a sanity check first.
6/6/2008 11:33:30 AM EDT
[#1]
Seems reasonable. The basic 1* package runs around 995 or more for a stainless gun. Factory GI runs about 550 or more. It could also a Mil-Spec which runs more.
6/6/2008 11:34:12 AM EDT
[#2]
Go for it. If you don't, tell me where to look.
6/6/2008 1:30:14 PM EDT
[#3]
That's not too bad of a price.  You might also check into used Browns / Baers / Wilsons.
6/6/2008 2:08:52 PM EDT
[#4]
Do it.
6/6/2008 4:04:58 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Seems reasonable. The basic 1* package runs around 995 or more for a stainless gun. Factory GI runs about 550 or more. It could also a Mil-Spec which runs more.


But they are no longer available as there is no longer a Yost-Bonitz.  Heirloom Precision will build a gun very similar to the 1* but it will cost quite a bit more.  Excellent gun for that price, I'd get it.
6/6/2008 5:48:01 PM EDT
[#6]
Lew Bonitz has the 1* packages at www.grizzlyguns.com/packages/.
If you are interested in a true Bonitz 1* package.
6/6/2008 5:51:07 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Lew Bonitz has the 1* packages at www.grizzlyguns.com/packages/.
If you are interested in a true Bonitz 1* package.


I didn't realize he was still offering them since Yost and the boys are no longer there.  I thought Lew was the rifle guy, wonder who is building the 1* now??  Still not the same as one that Ted or Jason built IMO.
6/6/2008 6:18:09 PM EDT
[#8]
Tim went with Lew. HP will not build you a package gun anymore, they are sticking to full house guns.

If I wasn't unemployed right now I would buy another one.
6/6/2008 6:32:44 PM EDT
[#9]
I'd love to come across a blued 1* Elite on a Colt with checkering and the silver inlaid logo on the slide.  Unfortunately the only ones that seem to show up for sale are, well, anything but.
6/6/2008 6:38:54 PM EDT
[#10]
Both my YoBos look like theyve been hammered. So does my buddies. My brothers is hard chrome.
6/6/2008 6:41:50 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Both my YoBos look like theyve been hammered. So does my buddies. My brothers is hard chrome.


Those don't seem to come up for sale either.  I guess those who use them, hang onto them, while the rest of 'em only come out of the safe for photoshoots.
6/6/2008 6:51:21 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Tim went with Lew. HP will not build you a package gun anymore, they are sticking to full house guns.

If I wasn't unemployed right now I would buy another one.


Jason will build a gun similar to a 1*, I've talked to him about this.  
6/6/2008 6:56:32 PM EDT
[#13]
Really? He told me they are doing high end stuff only, like full house guns. Maybe 1* Elites, but the base model... not so much.

6/6/2008 6:57:21 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
I didn't realize he was still offering them since Yost and the boys are no longer there.  I thought Lew was the rifle guy, wonder who is building the 1* now??


At one time I had thought that too but it seems Bonitz was more like the business manager, didn't build guns at all.


Still not the same as one that Ted or Jason built IMO.


Knowing what I know now, damn skippy...

6/6/2008 7:03:42 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Really? He told me they are doing high end stuff only, like full house guns. Maybe 1* Elites, but the base model... not so much.



Quote from Jason...

"We don't build a "1*" per se but would still be happy to build you a gun that is cosmetically similar to the 1* albeit much more complete in its construction and sans the 1* moniker and marking."

I'm assuming it would cost a little more than the original 1* and would be more "complete".
6/6/2008 7:06:13 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Tim went with Lew. HP will not build you a package gun anymore, they are sticking to full house guns.

If I wasn't unemployed right now I would buy another one.


Jason will build a gun similar to a 1*, I've talked to him about this.  


This is correct... we would still be happy to build a gun that is cosmetically similar to the 1* albeit much more complete in its construction and detail and sans the 1* moniker and marking.

Basically we only offer the absolute best in every gun we build with absolutely no functional corners cut. Since every gun that leaves the shop is built be either Ted or I we’re sort of picky about that. So while we’ll still build a gun that is cosmetically simple, such as the 1* guns were, every gun we turn out will be a full-house effort in terms of functional modifications such as weld-up frame and slide fits, Kart barrels, best quality trigger jobs, all new internals, etc... things that weren’t available on the package guns.

Hope this helps...
6/6/2008 7:08:44 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Tim went with Lew. HP will not build you a package gun anymore, they are sticking to full house guns.

If I wasn't unemployed right now I would buy another one.


Jason will build a gun similar to a 1*, I've talked to him about this.  


This is correct... we would still be happy to build a gun that is cosmetically similar to the 1* albeit much more complete in its construction and detail and sans the 1* moniker and marking.

Basically we only offer the absolute best in every gun we build with absolutely no functional corners cut. Since every gun that leaves the shop is built be either Ted or I we’re sort of picky about that. So while we’ll still build a gun that is cosmetically simple, such as the 1* guns were, every gun we turn out will be a full-house effort in terms of functional modifications such as weld-up frame and slide fits, Kart barrels, best quality trigger jobs, all new internals, etc... things that weren’t available on the package guns.

Hope this helps...


The man himself, good to hear from you.
6/6/2008 11:08:17 PM EDT
[#18]
Went ahead and scooped it up.  

I doubt I'd care to have a 1* from Grizzly...  It would hardly be the same.
6/7/2008 3:10:00 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
Went ahead and scooped it up.  

I doubt I'd care to have a 1* from Grizzly...  It would hardly be the same.


Nice now where is the eye candy.
6/7/2008 6:31:43 AM EDT
[#20]
Waiting on Mr. Postman and the call from my FFL.  I'll get pics up next week.  It's only coming from AZ to TX so it shouldn't take long.
6/7/2008 4:45:03 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Seems reasonable. The basic 1* package runs around 995 or more for a stainless gun. Factory GI runs about 550 or more. It could also a Mil-Spec which runs more.


But they are no longer available as there is no longer a Yost-Bonitz.  Heirloom Precision will build a gun very similar to the 1* but it will cost quite a bit more.  Excellent gun for that price, I'd get it.


+1

Springfield Yobos were the "lesser" 1911s for the sheer fact they lacked the pretty pony (yes, for collectors it made that much of a difference and the prices on the used market reflected this). I would pass on this gun for that price a year or two back even though it wouldn't have been a bad deal (rather pay another couple for the more desireable Yobo Colt). Today however, is a different ball game. Yobo is no more, so a springfield Yobo's value is bolstered tremendously from the fact that there are no more Yobo *1s made. I'd definitely consider it today.
6/7/2008 6:12:50 PM EDT
[#22]
Functionally the Springers are the same, but the Colt roll mark will always be worth more money. That is why I will always use Colts as base guns, unless I have good reason otherwise.
6/8/2008 8:50:50 AM EDT
[#23]
Yep but near as I can tell the Ponied Yobo's are holding at the 2k and above mark.  To me the real question is will the value fall below the investment.  Not that I'm likely to sell it.  I have a hard time getting rid of "special" guns.

In the end, I don't believe I could have found a Yobo 1* for any less than I've got into it.  With the fact that these are now a page in 1911 history, I don't believe the value will go down from here.

Seems to make good sense anyway.
6/8/2008 2:13:27 PM EDT
[#24]
Makes sense to me.
6/27/2008 4:51:20 PM EDT
[#25]
So the pistol turned out to be a 1* Enhanced built on a loaded stainless. (PX9151L)

Not sure why someone started with a loaded, but that's what it is.

It's one amazing shooting 1911.

Although I do need to figure out why the mainspring housing pin keeps walking to one side.
6/27/2008 5:59:55 PM EDT
[#26]
pictures!