Posted: 5/2/2008 3:35:27 PM EDT
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I have an el cheapo 1911 that doesn't like 200gr LSWC. It'll shooting 230gr RNs all day. Eventually I'm going to upgrade to a better quality 1911, but shooting 200gr is a MUST!! So here are my questions: 1) Do you shoot 200gr LSWCs through your 1911? 2) Did it shoot 200gr LSWCs out of the box without modifications/upgrades? 3) What make and model do you own? |
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Exactly how is it malfunctioning? I have an old (WWII) 1911 that shoots every darned thing I put in it. I polished the feed ramp, AND the face of the slide under and around the firing pin. I had found that cartridges would hang up because this area was slightly rough. One thing to try is a stronger main spring. If you have a weak main spring it won't strip the LSWC's out of the mag fast enough to chamber. |
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I handload 200gr LSWC bullets for competition in my SA Loaded. I have never had any trouble with them at all. I also have loaded 185gr and 170gr LSWC as well as 230 lead round nose with no problems. Exactly what kind of trouble are they giving you and what pistol are you trying to shoot them in? Jim |
| The ogive of the H&G 200gr SWC is almost the same as ball for feeding purposes if loaded correctly to OAL specs, which I do not have now, but many designs use short nosed bullets which do not feed so well. If you do not cast your own be sure to get the real H&G design. |
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I shoot 200SWC only through my own 1911. Ramp barrel, which is key to it feeding anything. If you have a non ramped barrel you may need to do some work to the feed ramp area if that's where it's hitting. Don't do much to the frame, only polish if anything. Most of the reliability work is in the barrel's ramp. |
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It has feeding issues. I'm using a MECGAR mag. And please don't laugh, it's a SAM 1911 (Made in the Philippines) I bought it a while ago of the EE. The individual I bought it from installed a Chip McCormick trigger and a S.A. stainless barrel. It was my first 1911. And I think I like them.  Should I try a different name brand mag? As for polishing, I'm assuming just the feed ramp area...right? |
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If you're going to be loading and shooting 200gr LSWCs, there's only one, and here are the specs: 45 Cal. 200g SWC .452. This bullet is by the Oregon Trail Bullet Company, and the appropriate website is here: www.laser-cast.com/45Cal.html Laser-Cast bullets are comprised of an alloy that includes silver, to give it a slickness, and hardness, that works beautifully within the 1911's 200gr envelope. I use Oregon Trail's bullets, both Laser-Cast, and TrueShot, for calibers in 9mm, .44 magnum, and .45acp. Try them, you'll like them, and you'll go there first, for the best... |
Correct answer! JD |
I shoot Oregon Trail LSWC 200g as well out of my Springfield G.I. Very accurate in a Kart barrel. Make sure the underside of the hood on the barrel isn't catching the LSWC round when it enters the chamber, there should be a chamfer there to break that edge. Polish the ramps lightly on the frame and the barrel. Use good magazines, I've had the best luck with Cobra Tripp hybrid follower kits, remove old junk springs and followers and install the Cobra Tripp hybrid upgrade kits for around $9 bucks a piece. Money well spent. www.trippresearch.com/CVS/products/1911/1911.html 
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| dan wesson pm7 (x 2), para p14, springer milspec. the para p14 had some feeding issues until i replaced the very old, compressed mainspring. new springs in old mags also turned things around with a variety of guns. i would try replacing springs before you start modifying. |
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I'm not sure if you're loading your own, but I had problems. with the 200 because I didn't seat it properly as previously described. Also, if your're buying a reload, there's a bunch of variables in that all on its own. I'd recommend one fix at a time. Different ammo first. Replacing the recoil and main springs might fix the problem, as the metal in them may be tired or subpar. Then borrowing different types of mags from my 1911 owning buddies for the next range session. I'd be hesitant as hell to start polishing anything just yet. BTW I wouldn't laugh at any 1911 that works with the 230, regardless of where its made, because the 230 LRN and bullseye powder is what the gun was designed for. I haven't bought a 1911 from the PI because one hasn't appeared in the pawnshop yet. |
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I have had only one pistol that had issues with SWC and that was a Kimber Ultra. I found I needed to seat the bullets an extra .020" to get them to feed properly. Step 1, get a decent mag, like a Wilson. Step 2 try seating the bullets another 10-20 thou deeper. I wouldn't mess with the feed ramp until step 7 or 8 |
+1billion Try different seating depths on the cartridge first |