Posted: 3/26/2008 5:48:54 AM EDT
| I NightHawk worth the $$$$$? |
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The only one I have actually held in my hands had a drag line in the checkering that went across a line of diamonds to the next line over. It was full depth. There is no excuse for allowing a pistol like that to leave the shop. And they still wanted $2600 for it. I will pay a lot of money for a good 1911. But you can't fix something like that. |
I must agree. I owned one of the first Talons to leave the shop. It had quite a few issues that needed to be fixed. I sold it and bought a Wilson Combat. I now own several WC's and they are more gun for the $$ IMO. Les Baer is the other semi-custom 1911 maker I would recommend. |
| I was a big fan of them in the beginning, even bought a Talon. Lately, I have seen some downright horrible pistols come out of their shop. I'm not sure if they got too big too fast or what. For a semi-custom it is hard to argue with Wilson Combat, or the Springfield Custom Shop. |
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I have shot a Talon in the past, and was less than impressed. I have heard that one of the main guys behind Nighthawk was Ron Phillips, and he formed Nighthawk because of a falling out with Bill Wilson. (It doesn't matter why, that isn't the point) He thought he could do better, so he left. But I have heard that in the past few months, that he has left Nighthawk. He was (according to what I hear) one of the best 'smiths at Wilson. If he has left Nighthawk, it is reasonable to assume that quality may suffer. If quality has suffered, especially recently, this may be the reason. Do not let this be the deciding factor on buying a Nighthawk. If you like it, and the price, buy it. As for me, I will pass based on my past experience with Nighthawk, and especially the local dealer. (I will not buy anything from this guy. In fact, I refuse to use their indoor range, and it is the only one closer than 70 miles away) |
+ 1. For that kind of money I think I would be more inclined to go with something along the lines of the Springfield "FBI /Professional" model. |
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Yikes, Nighthawks is taking a beating in here! When I purchased my semi custom 1911, I went with Nighthawk. The biggest reason was they wre willing to do what I anted and were able to deliever in a more than reasonable amount of time. I've been 100% happy with mine, and in the couple years I have had it, its been great. We sell a few of the big name 1911's where I work, and I cant say I have seen any more or less issues with one company over the next. Most of what we see is very, very good. From time to time we see an issue like a mistake on checkering, a spot that needed to be smoothed, an issue with a safety, something like that, but each time the company, whichever it was, has been quick to respond and fix the issue. Between the companies whose guns we sell, Nighthawk, Wilson, Ed Brown, Les Baer, and more recently STI and very recently, Rock River, Nighthawk and Wilson seem to be the most open to custom requests, and Nighthawk a little more so then Wilson. If its a possibility, find a dealer who has guns in stock and check them out before you buy. This way there are no surprises and if you see something you dont like, you can take a pass. |
| Man, I don't know. last week I was at Scottsdale gunclub; went back and forth between the Nighthawk wilson and Springfield displays; NH was definitely the best feeling and best looking. I've got 1000 rounds through a NH GRP; function excellent, great service/support, trigger like a $4k gun, same-hole accurate. Mag-related issue w/ failure to lock back; they bent over backwards to make it right, and did so. If I had a trigger like the one I felt on the SA Pro, I would be looking for a new pistol. |
Wilson is more than willing to give you exactly what you want. I think their customer service is second to none and they were very willing to do whatever I wanted on my CQB when I ordered from them. You may not get as good of a price as an "off the shelf" one if you have a stocking dealer, but if you call them and tell them exactly what you want, you'll get it no problem and with a very willing smile. |