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3/16/2008 5:05:52 PM EDT
Ive heard and read alot about something called galling, is this that big of a problem.  Right now I'm debating on getting a stainless Springfield pistol.  Is this going to last as long as the parked  steel.  For added information I do treat my guns right but I do shoot them quite often.  
3/16/2008 5:50:16 PM EDT
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Ive heard and read alot about something called galling, is this that big of a problem.  Right now I'm debating on getting a stainless Springfield pistol.  Is this going to last as long as the parked  steel.  For added information I do treat my guns right but I do shoot them quite often.  


I have a SS Colt Combat Commander and I have had no galling that I am aware of.
I do, however, keep it properly lubed. I suggest the same if you go for a stainless 1911 which I believe will wear better than parked regular carbon steel. The "Pros" say to use "anti-seize dry film lubricant to prevent galling and provide easy disassembly even after very high temperature exposure".  
3/16/2008 6:18:03 PM EDT
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I have experienced galling with my Springfield LOADED 9mm stainless when I first got it, and this was only because I cleaned all the oil off when I was cleaning it and did not add enough oil when I put it back together, couple drops of oil later and problem was solved.
3/16/2008 6:22:56 PM EDT
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Just to help me understand a little more I just want to make sure I even know what galling is.  Please forgive my ignorance, I've never even thought about purchasing a stainless gun before this.  What exactly is galling?
3/16/2008 6:27:16 PM EDT
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no galling on my colt combat commander either.  not on any of the SS colts that ive seen.
3/17/2008 2:31:48 AM EDT
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Just to help me understand a little more I just want to make sure I even know what galling is.  Please forgive my ignorance, I've never even thought about purchasing a stainless gun before this.  What exactly is galling?



Damage to the surfaces of materials sliding in contact with each other, usually caused by the localised welding together of high spots. Common for materials like stainless steel, aluminium alloys and titanium. ...
3/17/2008 4:12:11 AM EDT
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I've even hand fit a stainless slide to a stainless frame via hammer.  After smoothing things out, adding proper lube (i.e. ANY lube, but I use Break Free) it shoots great.  Galling isn't a problem with SS as long as you LUBE it, just like ANY 1911 should be.
3/17/2008 4:29:04 AM EDT
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I thought galling would be more of an issue on a gun where the slide and frame are made of different materials? (i.e. stainless slide and aluminum or Ti frame)
3/17/2008 7:58:43 AM EDT
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I thought galling would be more of an issue on a gun where the slide and frame are made of different materials? (i.e. stainless slide and aluminum or Ti frame)


Not in my (limited) experience. Galling can sometimes be spotted as material actually transferring from one mating part to another (a bit of the frame becomes a bit of the slide for example)

I've only owned one SS gun and it was low quality stainless. It was an AMT Backup in .380, and galling was very evident in the slide rails (once I learned to keep it lubed, it was less of an issue). Now there's one firearm I'm NOT sorry I sold!
3/17/2008 6:24:17 PM EDT
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Sorry for the pic
camera phone pic

This is a Colt Gold Cup National Match 10 years old
shot maybe 50,000 rounds or so
NO GALLING  on this gun.

http://i25.tinypic.com/vflhyw.jpg

They fixed galling very soon after coming out with SS firearms .
3/17/2008 6:29:48 PM EDT
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I thought galling would be more of an issue on a gun where the slide and frame are made of different materials? (i.e. stainless slide and aluminum or Ti frame)


Based on my understanding of what galling actually is, it is not possible for two dissimilar metals to gall each other. One way to solve the problem of galling on SS guns is therefore to make the slide and the frame out of sufficiently different stainless alloys.
3/17/2008 6:42:58 PM EDT
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Stainless steel will always be more prone to galling than high carbon steel due to SS being softer. If you keep it lubed correctly there won't be a problem. I have several thousand rounds through my stainless SA Loaded with no signs of galling or other wear. I use a gun grease in warm weather and oil when it is very cold. I use this pistol for match shooting.
Of course if you don't keep a carbon steel pistol lubed you will also have problems. It might not be galling but it won't be pretty either.
As for disimilar metals having a reaction I believe what you are thinking of is a electrolitic reaction between 2 different metals, like steel and aluminum, when immersed in salt water. The steel in a ship's hull will cause a reaction with the props for example. I don't think this reaction occurs with dry metals or in fresh water.

Jim
3/17/2008 7:23:13 PM EDT
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Stainless steel will always be more prone to galling than high carbon steel due to SS being softer.


Carbon steel cannot gall.

I've been doing some research on galling - galling is a cold welding phenomenon which occurs with metals which naturally form protective oxide coatings. Carbon steel does not have any oxide coating. Examples of metals with natural protective coatings are stainless steel (chromium oxide) and aluminum (aluminum oxide). Friction can displace these thin coatings, which allows the bare underlying metals to come into contact, with these bits (or 'shards', as I have seen them referred to occassionally) of oxide moving around on the metal. This then can lead to galling, depending on factors such as metal type, temperature, stress conditions, etc., with severe galling = cold weld = seized mechanism.
3/17/2008 9:14:49 PM EDT
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Stainless steel will always be more prone to galling than high carbon steel due to SS being softer.


Carbon steel cannot gall.

I've been doing some research on galling - galling is a cold welding phenomenon which occurs with metals which naturally form protective oxide coatings. Carbon steel does not have any oxide coating. Examples of metals with natural protective coatings are stainless steel (chromium oxide) and aluminum (aluminum oxide). Friction can displace these thin coatings, which allows the bare underlying metals to come into contact, with these bits (or 'shards', as I have seen them referred to occassionally) of oxide moving around on the metal. This then can lead to galling, depending on factors such as metal type, temperature, stress conditions, etc., with severe galling = cold weld = seized mechanism.



I thought it was just 2 soft metals rubbing against each other, but I have never really looked into it. I just grease the slide and lower, oil the pivot, grease the barrel where it goes through the bushing and shoot.

Jim