Posted: 2/3/2008 9:41:21 AM EDT
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Just saw this on 1911forum.com Trying to figure out why they went with a bull barrel.  
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The extra weight of the bull barrel will help reduce slide velocity. They should have done that on the first one. I have not been able to crack the frame on my Delta, and I use some pretty stout loads. Maybe Colt is going to start making some good business decisions now. I certainly hope so! |
 Do you always research things in such depth before you make stupid statements? The frame cracking issue was addressed very early in production, so much that it is a non-issue. |
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As someone who carries a DE everyday (almost), I am conflicted. Pro: 1) Yay! More 10mm! 2) Yay, more 10mm 1911s! 3) Proper sights and dovetails. Staked-on front sights suck. Con: 1) Hate the beavertail, like the old style better. 2) Not a big bull barrel fan, despite advantages. 3) Do NOT like that high cut under the trigger guard. 4) Don't like SS on guns. 5) I'll bet Colt's QC still sucks. Look at the serrations on the slide stop. Edit: Are those fake-wood grips? |
That is sweet. If Colt sold them looking like that......... I'd be stocking another pistol caliber. But, if they sold them looking like that the price would probably be +/- $3000.00. |
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Barrel weight does nothing for slide veloicty. Slide veloicty is controlled by slide mass and recoil spings. the heavy barrel will help on recoil as you have more stationary mass to the gun and more muzzel forward mass. now trasitions from target to target will be less as you have more mass. |
I disagree. Barrel weight added to slide weight, (mass, if you prefer), has a great deal to do with slide velocity. The barrel and slide move back together, until the link pulls the barrel down and out of the slide lugs. With a heavier barrel, the slide will be travelling slower at this point. The firing pin stop and mainspring also play an important role in slide velocity. I have a small radius EGW firing pin stop, and #25 mainspring on my Delta Elite. I use a #20 recoil spring, and this combination is quite controllable, even with high velocity loads. This is because the slide velocity has been reduced. A bull barrel would reduce the slide velocity even more, and if I ever replace my current barrel, I will strongly consider that approach. I do not like the full length guide rod and reverse plug setup used with the bull barrels, but I can live with it for applications like the 10mm. |
Yep, the one I bought in 1990 already hand the fix, been shooting it for 18 years no problems, thousands of rounds downrange! |
Mr. Tidler... Are you telling me you went to shot show and didn't tell me?!?! I'm stuck in Denver right now, missed my flight, and seen your post. I would have liked to gone and had a beer or something. Next time, let me know you are going to be in the area. Bob |
No not me ! That is a pic I borrowed from another site. Sorry if I gave the wrong impression.  (Have a nice trip !) |
I shoot 9x23 all the time  Just because some factory doesn't chamber it doesn't mean that it is dead.I might end up getting one of these pistols. |
I shoot 9x23 all of the time too. I had to build my own pistol to do so, however. (Mainly because I am too cheap to pay collector's prices for an out of print Colt). I also roll my own. I don't even think Winchester currently loads 9x23mm, though there is still plenty in the pipeline. Seriously, it is not a great deal of trouble to manufacture Gov't models in various chamberings. There is no reason why they couldn't re-introduce the 9x23mm. Perhaps if the 10mm sells well, they will consider it. If they don't, 9x23mm may not die, but it will certainly be on life support. I have a hard enough time explaining to people what .38 Super is, most people who look at a 9x23mm think it is some kind of foreign cartridge. Same thing goes for 10mm. I guess they figure American cartridges should be measured in inches. |
I bought 100rds of 9x23 Silvertips because they were on the clearance rack at Sportsman's Warehouse, on a whim. I didn't own anything in the caliber. Then I bought a 38 Super Witness, put a 20lb recoil spring in it, and went to town. 18rds of 9x23 = win. I'll build a 1911 next, probably off a Colt 38 Super. I agree, most people only see as far as 40/45/maybe 9x19. |