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4/6/2007 5:48:28 PM EDT
I never owned anything other than a G23 & G27, but browsing these 1911 threads lately has me thinking im missing out on a great gun. I'm thinking with a local gun show coming up I might try and pick one up, but I haven’t a clue on which brands are good and what a reasonable price is. So, I thought I would ask for some advice on what to look for.

Here are some things I would prefer

-Something comparable to the size of my G23 or smaller so I can conceal it.
-Gotta look good
-worthy of customization
-$800 or less would be nice, but I willing to pay more now rather than later for better quality.

Any suggestions?


4/6/2007 6:00:17 PM EDT
[#1]
For $800 or around that new I would go with a Springfield Loaded model. Im not sure what the going price is for it now, but if it is too high I would then look at Springfield G.I. model.
Im sure someone is wondering why I didnt say SW1911, but I dont recommend any gun with a schwartz safety system(yes I have had it fail).


There arent too many "quality" 1911s under $1000.

IF you can wait you would probably be more happy with a Springfield TRP/ Kimber Warrior/ STI Lawman-if you are more for quality than price.

Stay away from Para, my friend has one and it is a barrell of monkeys.
4/7/2007 5:38:48 AM EDT
[#2]
     If you really want something G23 sized, you probably are going to want a Commander sized gun.  As mentioned, the Springfield loaded in a Champion variety should squeak in just under $800.  A Colt XSE Commander might require you to spend almost $900.  There are some Kimbers that may fit into your price range, but I prefer to stay away from Aluminum, and i'm not even sure Kimber still has a steel framed Commander sized gun.  If you want to really spend a little more for the best, I know galleryofguns.com had some Les Baer Concept VIII's (I believe) Commander sized stainless guns going in the $1400 range at one time.  You probably would never need to do a thing to it other then shoot it forever.  I've got both a stainless loaded Champion and a Stainless Commander Colt XSE, and both would probably serve you fine.  I'm still keeping my three Baer's though!!!

later,
AJ
4/7/2007 5:44:30 AM EDT
[#3]
I'd skip over the Commander sized 1911s and head straight for the fullsize 5" 1911s.  

I know ypu said concealable, but in my personal experience a fullsize 1911 conceals better than a Glock because of the reduced width.  Yes, of course it is longer but it still conceals better.

The rec. to go for a SA loaded is good.  I'm not sure what kind of customization you want.  As a Glock guy, I imagine you're used to buying a solid gun and then using it without doodads.  A SA loaded will do that great.

JMO

4/7/2007 6:04:04 AM EDT
[#4]
I wish they would make a Springfield TRP in a Commander sized model!
4/7/2007 8:54:54 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
I never owned anything other than a G23 & G27, but browsing these 1911 threads lately has me thinking im missing out on a great gun. I'm thinking with a local gun show coming up I might try and pick one up, but I haven’t a clue on which brands are good and what a reasonable price is. So, I thought I would ask for some advice on what to look for.

Here are some things I would prefer

-Something comparable to the size of my G23 or smaller so I can conceal it. Colt NRM Commander-Gotta look good
-worthy of customization Colt NRM
-$800 or less would be nice, but I willing to pay more now rather than later for better quality. Colt NRM

Any suggestions?  See above.
4/7/2007 9:55:50 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
I'd skip over the Commander sized 1911s and head straight for the fullsize 5" 1911s.  

I know ypu said concealable, but in my personal experience a fullsize 1911 conceals better than a Glock because of the reduced width.  Yes, of course it is longer but it still conceals better.



Why skip the Commander size pistols for a full/Gov't? Other than wider selection, the 5" full size offers no appreciable advantage over the 4.25" Commanders, and the Commanders carry better (especially when sitting down).

If you want to CCW a 1911, there are only two ideal choices in my book: a reputable commander or a reputable compact (4" barrel).
4/7/2007 10:18:15 AM EDT
[#7]
Find an inexpensive Springfield, shoot it, and save! Then send it out to a Smith and have it built to your needs! You will have a beautiful pistol, that will be RELIABLE, and ACCURATE! I have owned and carried many pistols, but the below posted pistol is by far the most accurate and reliable that I own....It has been more reliable than my issued Glock
This 1911 started life as a used GI .45. It had very little rounds through it, and was in very good/like new condition. I only paid 310 for it prior to its make over.
Sean







4/7/2007 2:08:35 PM EDT
[#8]
Thanks for all the input, it's nice to have opinions from knowledgeable 1911 owners. Looks like I need to get out and feel some of these.

-Springfield Loaded Champion & Ultra Compact
-Kimber Pro Carry II maybe Compact CDP II
-Colt NRM Commander
-Colt XSE Commander

My budget could be shot, but I might luck out and find something used at the gun show or do like Irish317 said.

4/7/2007 8:27:21 PM EDT
[#9]
In the 800 dollar range the Colt XSE is gonna be the pony to be had.
4/8/2007 7:42:08 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
In the 800 dollar range the Colt XSE is gonna be the pony to be had.


+1

GTD
4/8/2007 10:48:37 AM EDT
[#11]
I third the Colt XSE. Well built and looks very retro especially with the new roll marks. Just purchased a fullsized one in blue for myself. Love the bluing.
4/8/2007 10:58:45 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
I third the Colt XSE. Well built and looks very retro especially with the new roll marks. Just purchased a fullsized one in blue for myself. Love the bluing.


Dang---I hope my tax return will let me pickup the same!-----------I love the XSE--------and will go "Blue" on this one.---Love that Blue.

GTD
4/8/2007 12:12:32 PM EDT
[#13]
I've seen some used Les Baer Stingers for around a grand. Pretty good deal for what you get. Also close in size to the 23.
4/13/2007 9:35:45 PM EDT
[#14]
I like the Kimbers.  They make al sizes 3",4" and 5".  I have a RaptorII and will have a Custom II next week.  My nex will be a custom carryII or CDP for CCW.
4/13/2007 11:35:45 PM EDT
[#15]
I'm one for the Springfield. I have a Mil-Spec you can see on the second picture thread last page.
4/14/2007 2:50:43 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I third the Colt XSE. Well built and looks very retro especially with the new roll marks. Just purchased a fullsized one in blue for myself. Love the bluing.


Dang---I hope my tax return will let me pickup the same!-----------I love the XSE--------and will go "Blue" on this one.---Love that Blue.

GTD


Yep.  Colt does the nicest blue
4/14/2007 6:32:41 AM EDT
[#17]
Nothing but trouble from Kimbers for me.  From my experience, I'd stretch the ol budget as far as you can and get a Les Baer.  They seem to offer the best value as far as rock solid reliability and cost.  Personally, I'm a fan of aluminum frames for carry, and Les doesn't offer that.  Still, if you don't mind the extra weight it will serve you well for the rest of your life.
4/14/2007 4:52:00 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I third the Colt XSE. Well built and looks very retro especially with the new roll marks. Just purchased a fullsized one in blue for myself. Love the bluing.


Dang---I hope my tax return will let me pickup the same!-----------I love the XSE--------and will go "Blue" on this one.---Love that Blue.

GTD


Yep.  Colt does the nicest blue


Man, now I must have it "Blue" and soon!------------------------------Do I need the new roll marks??

GTD
4/14/2007 4:55:50 PM EDT
[#19]
Yes.....yes you do.
4/14/2007 5:27:24 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Yes.....yes you do.


Dumb question-------Is there a link or pic of side by side new and prev roll marks??


GTD
4/15/2007 9:19:17 PM EDT
[#21]
Colt lightweight commander XSE.  I would later get it bobtailed.
4/18/2007 5:36:21 AM EDT
[#22]
definitely get a Colt. All new lwer end springfields are made in Brazil. It just screams Taurus Factory to me.

BTW anyone noticed how Taurus Recently got into the 1911 business?