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12/14/2006 12:28:06 PM EDT
Or rather 1911 questions since I don't know any of the answers.

Who invented/perfected and when the following 1911 add ons:

Beavertail Grip Safety

Flared Mag Wells

Flared and lowered ejection port

The grip safety with the added hump on the bottom

The recoil spring guide rod

Front slide serrations

The National Match 1911 as we know it today.

Thanks for the input.

12/14/2006 3:56:46 PM EDT
[#1]

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Or rather 1911 questions since I don't know any of the answers.

The recoil spring guide rod


John Moses Browning. The guide rod has been in them since 1910 or so. Or did you mean a full-length guide rod?????    



The National Match 1911 as we know it today.


Colt did most of the leg work, IMO. Later, checkered front straps were added & whatnot.
12/14/2006 4:06:23 PM EDT
[#2]
Al Gore?



Sorry, I couldn't resist.


Woody
12/14/2006 6:32:03 PM EDT
[#3]
USPSA shooters, turned 1911 manufacturers. for most of them.

1911 National match, there is an US Army spec for building them.

"Men such as Bill Wilson, Ed Brown, Jim Clark, Richard Heinie, Jim West, Marc Krebs and many others have taken old products- grip and thumb safeties, triggers, sights, and other original designs- and innovated them into the 21st century."


ed
12/15/2006 9:58:01 PM EDT
[#4]
• Beavertail Grip Safety = Jim Clark Sr. (welded a metal plate to the back of the factory grip safety in the late 40’s)
• Flared Mag Wells =  Kings
• Flared and lowered ejection port =  Jim Clark in the early 50’s.
• The grip safety with the added hump on the bottom = Ed Brown (memory groove)
• The recoil spring guide rod = Wilson Combat.
• Front slide serrations = started popping up all over the place, and they are a terrible idea – good way to shoot yourself in the hand.
• The National Match 1911 as we know it today = Colt

12/16/2006 1:11:32 PM EDT
[#5]

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• The recoil spring guide rod = Wilson Combat.





Did the original design not include a guide rod??????????????
12/16/2006 3:08:19 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:

• The recoil spring guide rod = Wilson Combat.





Did the original design not include a guide rod??????????????


I think he means the FLGR, not the normal USGI short guide rod.
12/17/2006 4:50:20 PM EDT
[#7]
Correct...
12/17/2006 6:37:47 PM EDT
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The (FULL LENGTH) recoil spring guide rod


P.T. Barnum?
12/17/2006 6:41:04 PM EDT
[#9]
Most important thing to remember is that Jim Clark, Sr -RIP- single handedly created the 1911 tuner industry. He was the 1st, and his son and small team of magicians are still doing it by hand the same way they did it back in the late 40's.
12/18/2006 2:33:08 PM EDT
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Most important thing to remember is that Jim Clark, Sr -RIP- single handedly created the 1911 tuner industry. He was the 1st, and his son and small team of magicians are still doing it by hand the same way they did it back in the late 40's.
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Yes, but it was custom firms like Charles Daily, Auto Ordnance, and Rock Island Armory that took that precision to the next level.
Sorry.   I'll be quiet now.
12/18/2006 3:26:28 PM EDT
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Yes, but it was custom firms like Charles Daily, Auto Ordnance, and Rock Island Armory that took that precision to the next level.




I was unaware that any of those did custom work? Auto Ordnance made only mil-spec 1911s until just recently, Charles Daly has been in the 1911 market for only 10 years, maybe even less. Rock Island hasn't been around very long either.........    
12/18/2006 4:31:43 PM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:

Yes, but it was custom firms like Charles Daily, Auto Ordnance, and Rock Island Armory that took that precision to the next level.




I was unaware that any of those did custom work? Auto Ordnance made only mil-spec 1911s until just recently, Charles Daly has been in the 1911 market for only 10 years, maybe even less. Rock Island hasn't been around very long either.........    




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He wasn't serious, BobCole