Posted: 12/6/2006 5:33:37 PM EDT
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what i have in mind is a 10mm 1911 with a light rail on the frame. I cannot think of anyone who produces such a beast. So what i'm trying to find is if there is anyone who produces a .40 S&W frame with a rail and just drop a 10mm barrel in it. Is anyone aware of a compant producing such a frame? i know you can add a rail to a standard 1911 frame but i do not want to limit my holster options. thanks. J |
Ummmmmm, the lower is caliber specific. The feedramps are different in the frame for different calibers. It may not look like it, but the .45 is cut deeper compared to smaller calibers. Thanks, Bob |
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Miller Custom knows of what he speaks! Feedramp is in the frame - frames are cartridge specific. I own a Colt Delta Elite, but if I was looking for another 10mm in a 1911 platform, I'd build on a Caspian frame and slide, or look for a used (not abused) DE on one of the auction sites. |
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Didn't you call STI's double stack guns an abomination in another thread? Yep... www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=49&t=37294
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I did. I believe that any double stack is an abomination of a 1911. That's not to say I wouldn't try to put together a longslide 10mm for myself...singlestack. Anything constructive to offer, or are you here to point out my beliefs to others? |
| Sure, I have something constructive to offer. If you want to start from scratch, ordering a frame and slide set from Caspian or STI would be a good place for either a double stack or a single stack. If you want an off the shelf pistol, there are several semicustom shops that will build a 10mm. Springfield will build you one in their custom shop, and I think they can also do double stacks for you. |
I hear that most 1911 cannot withstand the long term stress of a 10mm. That is why the delta elite was cancelled by the FBI. The frame needs to be steel or titanium. It would be sweet, however, to get my hands on the FBI contract HK MP5 in 10mm. |
The Deltas all had a really beefy steel frame. My dad bought a blue Delta Gold Cup a week after I bought my .45 Gold Cup, the difference in frame beef is nuts. Its beefier than my Kimber as well. Now, I wouldnt build a 10mm on an aluminum frame, and I'd have serious reservations about a Ti frame. If I were building any sort of heavy recoiling 1911, I'd be looking for a DE setup, and then modifying as I needed to. |
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Well, if I remember Caspian's policy correctly, the .45 frames are warranted for life, and all other calibers are for 2 years. Kinda makes you think.. But anyway, there's a Colt Delta Elite slide, barrel, mag, etc on the eBay for not a whole lot. Caspian probably makes their "Recon" frame in .40/10mm. You wouldn't be too far off with all that. |
IIRC the Deltas had beefed up their frames for 10mm. It was the area that was "beefed up" that was cracking, if you look around online there are pictures. They later milled the area away and they don't crack anymore. I think the change over came when they labled the Deltas as enhanced models. It was a while ago so I could be completely wrong. 
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The gun wasn't the problem; recoil and limited hand-reach (small/ female agents) was what killed the 10mm in the eyes of the FBI. PS-the Delta Elite was never issued to the FBI- they used S & W!!! |
No, that problem was corrected WAY before the enhanced model was introduced; my stainless DE, circa ' 89- ' 90 has the milled slide cut. |