Posted: 9/1/2006 11:16:46 AM EDT
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NYSP GIU has recovered a Remington Rand 1911 with an experimental serial Number of ERR48. There is no NCIC stolen gun listing and no pistol permit info in NY. A crack dealer was toting it and we know it was stolen from somebody but it was obviously never reported. If anyone can help please e-mail, IM, or call me 607-343-2568. Thanks. |
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What a conundrum..... In a last ditch effort to save this from the smelter and since I currently reside in NY, if I were to call up and say yeah, it's mine", the question would be asked "why wasn't this on your permit?" Nothing good could come from that..... Anyone <nudge, nudge> from the PA hometown crew missing their .45??? |
Just what I am trying to do, and my Lt. is on board, is save this from the smelter. It is our opinion it belongs in a museum preferrably the NRA or Smithsonian, but probably the NYSP museum in Albany with a caption on the stupid crack dealer walking around with a $15,000.00 gun in his pants. As far as the SN goes, it's in my possession now and absent a politically correct place to put it (not in my safe) it will remain in my custody until destruction, ewww I hate that word. It has been described to me as the "Holy Grail" of 1911 finds in NY. But I would like to see who it was stolen from. They do deserve it back. |
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Good on ya' Baker 3!!! You might also want to consider the USMA West Point Museum www.usma.edu/Museum/. I would think that if a particular museum doesn't have an immediate use for it, they could trade to another for something they do need. ETA: As an afterthought; a fine pistol going into the NYSP museum means that the Governor owns it. He or his successors, following the antigun path that NY is taking, may later order it destroyed. Long term preservation may mean going out of state. Another ideal recipient would be the Springfield Armory Museum, the Nation’s first armory. The armory is relevant to this pistol's history. The contracts that came from it were key to the development of the nation's rapid industrial response to winning the Second World War, when non-firearms manufacturers were licensed to convert their production lines to become Government Owned- Contractor Operated arsenals.
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Well the bad news is that many old 1911s were never registered back then in the first place and if the original owner had it stolen from him chances are pretty good that it was never on the books. OK, looked up the ERRS prefix [experimental Rem Rand Series] which were guns they experimented on to improve their product.ERRS were manufactured with the ERRS prefix after the NO to about 100. Made sometime after mid 1943. They wer later presented to officials and employees of the company. Manbe company records, if they still exist could help you. And yes it has historical connentations, pretty sad that someone is even THINKING about just destroying it. Maybe a Military museum could help you?Could it be presented or donated in any way? |
Funny how the NY State Police Gun Investigation Unit would utilize ARFCOM for help. My God, the cop haters on this board must be rallying as I type this. Good luck getting it back to it's rightful owner and also let me know if it ever ends up with a "for sale" sign on it. "Wave" - (One of Mayor Bloomberg's Blue Polyester Clad Minions) |
