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7/26/2006 5:55:01 PM EDT
Alrighty,
I took my SA WWII to the range again today and put another 100 through it.  Happy to say that even with a relatively high hold, I got almost NO hammer bite.  All I have is a tiny little scratch that doesn't even hurt, so I figure that if that's all I got after 100 rounds, I should be pretty good to go.

Anyway, if I decide to get this thing "built", I'm probably going to go with a spartan build and leave the stock grip safety.  However, the stock internals gotta go.  Are all the aftermarket spur triggers HAMMERS the same length as the SA?  I like the looks of the EMC wide spur hammer.  The other option is a rowel type commander hammer.  I assume they don't have the "reach" of a spur hammer?  I LOVE the looks of a commander hammer on a 5" 1911.

Any thoughts?


7/26/2006 5:59:41 PM EDT
[#1]
spur trigger?

7/26/2006 7:17:31 PM EDT
[#2]
Thanks for the contribution.  You know what I meant.
7/27/2006 3:15:27 AM EDT
[#3]
all 1911 hammers are designed to make the gun fire.  No sure what your asking.

Manuf of the gun, provided it is from a quality builder, any hammer can be made to work.

I think the gripsaftey will have to be changed. All the aftermarket grip sasfties I have seen have a recess in them for clearence for some of the aftermarket hammers.

I know My colt commander has a commander hammer and the stock grip saftey. I do not know if the spur on the grip saftey is shorter than a goverment grip saftey.
7/27/2006 3:51:22 AM EDT
[#4]
I'm talking about the spur on the hammer.  I'm asking if any of the aftermarket spur hammers are the same length as the stock SA or shorter.  It they're shorter they'd be perfect, if the same length, maybe shaved down a tiny bit.  I don't see why the grip safety would have to be changed.
7/27/2006 1:00:24 PM EDT
[#5]
If you use a Commander ring hammer, you will have to replace the Gov't grip safety because it needs to be relieved for the ring part of the hammer.

If it were me, I'd get a good spur hammer, and take off about 1/8".  The wide spur hammers look a little odd if you bob them, so I'd recommend a narrow spur hammer.

What bothers me about the stock setup is that the grip safety's sharp edges dig into my hand and make it a generally uncomfortable range session.  If the grip safety were dehorned, I wouldn't have a problem with keeping it all stock.
7/27/2006 1:26:42 PM EDT
[#6]
It's not necessary to replace the stock GS when using a commander hammer.  It just needs to be "hogged" out a little.  John Harrison and Dave Berryhill do it quite frequently. I love the looks of it....



7/27/2006 1:39:51 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
It's not necessary to replace the stock GS when using a commander hammer.  It just needs to be "hogged" out a little.  John Harrison and Dave Berryhill do it quite frequently. I love the looks of it....

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97/Trumpet1/berryhill.jpg
i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97/Trumpet1/HarrisonRetro.jpg


This is the way I do all my Govt. models with commander hammers (and almost all of my 5" guns have the traditional commander hammer).  

I personally don't like the current aftermarket "deep dish" grip safetys.  Modifying a standard Govt Model grip safety like this works very well for me.  I do like to round the edges however as they can be very sharp on some guns as mentioned above.  JD
7/27/2006 1:50:24 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
It's not necessary to replace the stock GS when using a commander hammer.  It just needs to be "hogged" out a little.  John Harrison and Dave Berryhill do it quite frequently. I love the looks of it....


True.  But you can get the same grip safety from Brownell's vs. sending it to a 'smith.
7/27/2006 1:57:14 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's not necessary to replace the stock GS when using a commander hammer.  It just needs to be "hogged" out a little.  John Harrison and Dave Berryhill do it quite frequently. I love the looks of it....


True.  But you can get the same grip safety from Brownell's vs. sending it to a 'smith.


Now I know I'm old.  This good news.  Save some work!  If you have a link it would be appreciated; however, don't go to any trouble, I can look it up as well.  Thanks,  JD
7/27/2006 2:07:10 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Now I know I'm old.  This good news.  Save some work!  If you have a link it would be appreciated; however, don't go to any trouble, I can look it up as well.  Thanks,  JD


Currently Brownell's apparently only carries the SS version, part # 160-112-101.  There is a blue part listed in my 2005 catalog, but it seems to be discontinued.  I'd bet you can still order the part directly from Colt.
7/27/2006 2:21:38 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Now I know I'm old.  This good news.  Save some work!  If you have a link it would be appreciated; however, don't go to any trouble, I can look it up as well.  Thanks,  JD


Currently Brownell's apparently only carries the SS version, part # 160-112-101.  There is a blue part listed in my 2005 catalog, but it seems to be discontinued.  I'd bet you can still order the part directly from Colt.


Thanks for the information and taking time to send it.  I'm going to check them out right now.  I don't mind having a couple on hand for the next  5" ers that always come along.  JD
7/27/2006 4:09:56 PM EDT
[#12]
Well, I figure with my gunsmithing "skills", I'm sending it out to a smith regardless.  I suppose it would be a "six of one..." type situation.  I'm sure paying a smith to dehorn and relieve the stock GS would end up costing as much or more than just buying one already set up like that.
7/27/2006 6:58:39 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Well, I figure with my gunsmithing "skills", I'm sending it out to a smith regardless.  I suppose it would be a "six of one..." type situation.  I'm sure paying a smith to dehorn and relieve the stock GS would end up costing as much or more than just buying one already set up like that.


Plus refinishing... plus shipping... plus the wait....