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10/27/2005 8:29:52 AM EDT
I have a Springfield 1911 (basic model) and have extraction/ejection problems.  I have been reloading using the Speer manual recommendations but can't get good extraction/ejection issues...advise???
10/27/2005 8:45:04 AM EDT
[#1]
Did the gun function with factory ammo? What reloading components are you using? For example , what powder, primer, bullet and weight and how many grains of powder are you using? Any gun modifications of any type? Answer these questions and perhaps we can help you. Charles the Gunsmith..  
10/27/2005 8:47:57 AM EDT
[#2]
My sprignfield started to go all screwy on me with reloaded ammunition, then went to factory as well. Turned out it was a mag issue (which was easily fixed) and an extractor issue, mine had worn out, it only misbehaved on reloads more because the rims were more chewed up....


I tried ot put a new extractor in it myself (and eventually succeeded) apparently they need to be fitted

Now it runs liek a top, and will probably do so for another 10 K rounds
10/27/2005 11:59:58 AM EDT
[#3]
Please post details but for future reference you don't want to rely on just one reloading manual, I suggest you refer to the manufacturer's data and another reputable manual, Lyman's for example.  Also, what mags are you using?
10/27/2005 1:01:34 PM EDT
[#4]
With no experience with newer two piece extractors, the 1911 std. extractor needs to be tensioned properly.  With the slide off and barrel removed,  slip a loaded shell onto the bolt face behind the extractor. there should be enough tension that the shell will be held against gravity, if it fall out the extractor needs more side tension.

Take the extractor out, put it part way back in and bend it sideways to give it more tension.
10/27/2005 7:32:23 PM EDT
[#5]
Oh crap!  This is just about the most depressing news I could get the day after buying a Springfield 1911 and a week after buying a Dillon XL650, and a few hours after seeing the prices of .45 ammo.

How bad could it be?  A jam every few mags, or a jam every few rounds?
10/27/2005 9:04:25 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Oh crap!  This is just about the most depressing news I could get the day after buying a Springfield 1911 and a week after buying a Dillon XL650, and a few hours after seeing the prices of .45 ammo.

How bad could it be?  A jam every few mags, or a jam every few rounds?




Dude, relax.


I have 2 Springer full size, and 3 Kimbers. I also have a 650 that pumps plinking ammo out like a rapped ape.

Just make sure your extractor has enough tension and get good mags. I use CMC and Wilson exclusively. I just sold the factory mags and NEVER used them.  Springfield will treat you right. I just got a shipping refund check in the mail today for a slide that I sent back to have a shorter front sight installed. The original shot about 6 inches low at 15yds. They were prompt and professional. Turn around was about a week door to door.  And it did not cost me a dime

Follow the reloading manuals for powder and start SLOW on the 650.  When you first start out there is so much that you are trying to watch that some important things get overlooked. ( ahem.... I loaded about 8 rounds w/o primers before I noticed the bullseye everywhere. I tapped the low primer sensor and it started singing. It had gotten stuck a little canted after my last refill of the automatic primer feed... ahem)

And of course call Dillon if you have ANY questions, I do mean ANY. They would rather answere a 100 'simple' questions than have you sit there pissed off with their product.

It goes w/o saying post here or in the reloading section of ARFCOM for help.

good luck and enjoy the new toy


10/28/2005 12:50:54 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Oh crap!  This is just about the most depressing news I could get the day after buying a Springfield 1911 and a week after buying a Dillon XL650, and a few hours after seeing the prices of .45 ammo.

How bad could it be?  A jam every few mags, or a jam every few rounds?



I'll second what  six four said. My Loaded model has well over a thousand rounds, and the only malf I've had so far was due to bad brass. Relax.


Now I just need the progressive. I think I need a 550 after payday next week.
10/28/2005 9:39:56 AM EDT
[#8]
If you are not doing so now, check the crimp diameter at the case mouth. I go for .469/.471. Prior to getting wise, i had all kinds of feed trouble. I'm currently using a Lee factory crimp die and have no trouble with anything I reload and shoot from my Kimber or Springer-
10/29/2005 10:23:04 AM EDT
[#9]
Thanks for the input, guys.

To answer some questions, the pistol is "out of the box" and has not been altered/smithed in any way. It is not very old and has maybe 1K rounds through it. It is a Springfield basic model (not the WWII, but no adj sights or bells & whistles).  

I have been using the Chip McCormick SS 8-rd mags, which have worked well with factory ammo.  I have been reloading with all RCBS equipment, Unique powder, Speer Gold Dot 185 gr. bullets (and others), CCI primers and range pickup brass that has been mixed but has been cleaned, resized/deprimed then trimmed to .888 as suggested in instructions that came with trimmer.  
10/29/2005 11:08:47 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Thanks for the input, guys.

To answer some questions, the pistol is "out of the box" and has not been altered/smithed in any way. It is not very old and has maybe 1K rounds through it. It is a Springfield basic model (not the WWII, but no adj sights or bells & whistles).  

I have been using the Chip McCormick SS 8-rd mags, which have worked well with factory ammo.  I have been reloading with all RCBS equipment, Unique powder, Speer Gold Dot 185 gr. bullets (and others), CCI primers and range pickup brass that has been mixed but has been cleaned, resized/deprimed then trimmed to .888 as suggested in instructions that came with trimmer.  




Do you have any other types of mags to try? ( I have one 1911 that for whatever reason does not like Wilson Mags, and every other one I have shot loves them. It gobbles up Promag mags though.... I think I'll sell that 1911, just seems not right)

My other suggestion is that your load might be too light, causing the slide to *just* shortstroke. (My shooting buddies reloads do this in ALL my pistols, he trims his recoils springs to work with his loads so that he can save money on powder )

Trying to think of other options....    if I do think of them i will post them
10/31/2005 3:52:24 PM EDT
[#11]
I'm about 2 months down the road from you with my Springy GI .45 and new Dillon 650.
Ditto on the Lee Factory Carbide Crimp die, took care of my failure to feed problems.
BUT, I have changed out lots of Springy parts and now have had almost 100% reliability.
First up: Check your extractor to make sure it is tensioned correctly. The original can work fine once it is hand fitted better.
Depending on your loads, you should also consider changing out the recoil spring. I had a few failure to fires, and replaced the light titanium firing pin with a steel Ed Brown and new Wolff extra power firing pin spring.
It's all part of the ownership experiance...or take the easy way out and find a good 1911 'Smith to check it out.

Al S
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