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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:45:20 PM EDT
My brother's birthing is in the next month or so, and I wanna buy him something decent.
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Springfield, but I personally would stretch budget for a CZ 1911 A2
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Fuck Springfield Armory and RRA.
There's tons of other decent 1911s in that price range or less. Colt, Ruger, Remington, Sig... |
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ARFcom for some reason despises what I'm about to recommend. But.... Kimber. I really feel you get the best bang for the buck on a factory 1911 with them. And they have many variations available. I've had Colts, S&W, Ruger, Springfields, Kimbers, Para.... And while some of the other brands I might have had lesser or better versions than stock factory Kimbers. I still feel this way.
The only 1911 I miss and regret selling is my Colt Combat Commander though. edit: Unless you buy the top end Springfields, I think they suck. ARFcom loves CZ for some reason, I've personally had nothing but bad experiences with them myself and wouldn't ever recommend one. Though, the CZ's weren't 1911's that I've had experience with. Les Bear, makes a great 1911 if you want to pay 2x what its worth. Wilson Combat is way over rated in my mind as well for the cost. |
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Dan wesson Heritage or 1911a2. There is a reason everyone loves CZs Dan Wesson line of 1911s because they are excellent guns.. KImber doesn't make a gun worth $1000 also. Find it amusing the post before me thinks kimber is a Value but les Baer is twice what it's worth.. Flip that around and you have the truth. KImbers generally are 2x what they are worth les Baer makes a hell of a gun..
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Used TRP. Fuck Springfield, but they already made their money once. Find one on the cheap.
I'm going to get flamed for saying that. |
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Colt Wiley Clapp series. 25 LPI checkering, real Novak sights (unlike Springfield, which use unlicensed knock-offs), brass bead front sight, NM barrel and beveled magwell. All for about $1,100.
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There's a glut on the 1911 market right now, not too dissimilar to the current post-election glut on all things AR.
For $1K, you should be able to find a nice, new Colt gommit model for your bro, ... or maybe a Sig TacOps, which are nice too, but it depends on whether he wants the cool-guy "Operator-as-Fuck" rail on it. If not, just get him a basic blue Colt. That's the one with the Pony on it. Fuck S.A. |
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At the gun show today in Lewisville TX, there were 1911 and other pistols and ar's that were priced far above and below what you would usually see. Strangest thing. Walked out with a new Spyderco.
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I saw a NIB Colt Gold Cup National Match Series 70 on gunsamerica for 1099 a few days ago.
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Wow! I wish I had seen that.,.,that kinda stuff never happens to me.
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For shooting, you may find a used Dan Wesson for under 1K. For looks Colt is still making the series 70, I just got one for a little over 900 and it's gorgeous.
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Though some will tell you they're not true 1911's, I went with Sig. They make a damn nice 1911 at roughly that price point, they offer a lot of different models in their lineup, and they all have features that aren't necessarily common at that price point. Considering all their features, they hit above their weight. I have an RCS and Emperor Scorpion, and both are absolutely great. I'm considering picking up one or two more, and just letting something in the Sig satisfy all my 1911 wants.
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If you could expand budget by about 200 bucks.
Dan wesson. Top notch 1911s...when a high up at kimber tells you to get a dw...I tend to listen. They did not disappoint Used Sa trp. Good sa. Too bad sa is a shit ty company SW e series. If you don't mind external extractor, gtg. Not too high on my recommendation list. Sig 1911s. Overpriced pos...never seen recent ones work with a shit. Weak extractor is what I see most Kimber. 2nd worst...so hit or miss. WC is spotty. Sometimes they are smooth and work ok. Seen a lot recent look like ass, feel like sand, and unreliable Newer colts. All dog shit...old colt, yes. New ones, no. Gritty everything, sharp edges. Seen more not work than do... All other non sa trp or operatoe....just eh. |
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Fuck Springfield Armory and RRA. View Quote Plenty can be found about it, but here's a place to start... Put Away The Pitchforks: Springfield Armory & Rock River Arms Did NOT Sell Out Gun Owners - Bob Owens (RIP) |
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Please stop with this perpetual nonsense. SA and RRA never removed their opposition to SB1657, and along with other members, were sold out by the IMFA. Plenty can be found about it, but here's a place to start... Put Away The Pitchforks: Springfield Armory & Rock River Arms Did NOT Sell Out Gun Owners - Bob Owens (RIP) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Fuck Springfield Armory and RRA. Plenty can be found about it, but here's a place to start... Put Away The Pitchforks: Springfield Armory & Rock River Arms Did NOT Sell Out Gun Owners - Bob Owens (RIP) I believe that according to the the IMFA's form 990 EZ that was filed with the IRS and which can be found at the link below, members of the Reese family that owns Springfield Armory and Chuck Larson of Rock River Arms, were the only officers of the IFMA Board of Directors so one might say they "were" the IMFA. Dennis Reese- President Tom Reese- Secretary Chuck Larson- Treasurer Jay Keller -Executive Director ( an employee ) https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/IFMA-Form-990-2013.pdf And IIRC, I believe that they were the only political donors to that organization as well. |
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I have a Springfield Lightweight Operator, had the barrel and bushing hand fit and a trigger job done.
Shoots as good as anything out there now, it was good before but its a real tack driver now, the balance in my hand is perfect with the alloy frame. Total Invested even with the gunsmith job was right at $1100, it doesnt have a big name like Wilson Combat or Nighthawk stamped on it, but after shooting it side by side vs my dads Wilson, Ill save 2k and take what I have. |
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I believe that according to the the IMFA's form 990 EZ that was filed with the IRS and which can be found at the link below, members of the Reese family that owns Springfield Armory and Chuck Larson of Rock River Arms, were the only officers of the IFMA Board of Directors so one might say they "were" the IMFA. Dennis Reese- President Tom Reese- Secretary Chuck Larson- Treasurer Jay Keller -Executive Director ( an employee ) https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/IFMA-Form-990-2013.pdf And IIRC, I believe that they were the only political donors to that organization as well. View Quote I take any information from TTAG with a grain of salt, at best. In this case, a 2013 document. Thanks for the link though. Hopefully you've disposed of all your Springfield and RRA products, if you had any, lest you be party to their selling out. I've already made my recommendation to the OP, I'll not drift the thread any further. |
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What style of 1911 does he like?
Fsc, fcs, tactical, traditional, BBQ? That will better help My vote is a clapp Colt (can always find them for $1000 or less) and is pretty mildly modded Or spend a little more for DW |
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Was the smartass use of an emoji necessary to your point? <--(Rhetorical) I take any information from TTAG with a grain of salt, at best. In this case, a 2013 document. Thanks for the link though. Hopefully you've disposed of all your Springfield and RRA products, if you had any, lest you be party to their selling out. I've already made my recommendation to the OP, I'll not drift the thread any further. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I believe that according to the the IMFA's form 990 EZ that was filed with the IRS and which can be found at the link below, members of the Reese family that owns Springfield Armory and Chuck Larson of Rock River Arms, were the only officers of the IFMA Board of Directors so one might say they "were" the IMFA. Dennis Reese- President Tom Reese- Secretary Chuck Larson- Treasurer Jay Keller -Executive Director ( an employee ) https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/IFMA-Form-990-2013.pdf And IIRC, I believe that they were the only political donors to that organization as well. I take any information from TTAG with a grain of salt, at best. In this case, a 2013 document. Thanks for the link though. Hopefully you've disposed of all your Springfield and RRA products, if you had any, lest you be party to their selling out. I've already made my recommendation to the OP, I'll not drift the thread any further. |
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Curious what problems you had with your Wilson that leads you to believe they're way over rated. To answer the OP's question, I would buy a Colt if I were spending <$1000 on a 1911. View Quote My personal statement stands. Wilson and Les Baer are overpriced for what you get in the end buying new from them. |
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My vote is for a Colt as well, my brother and I both have purchased new Colt's in the past few years and they're both superb! I want another one right now!
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If you want to improve your Kimber experience find a low mileage used first generation gun. I have had 3 and all were 100% solid pistols . That said STI and CZ are where I would send you next
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Colt, Ruger, or S&W E-series. For the $1000 mark or a bit less you get a lot of gun for the money. Spend what's left on a decent holster, ammo, and a half dozen Wilson Combat mags.
http://www.colt.com/Catalog/Pistols/Combat-Elite I'm a sucker for 2-tone pistols, this baby is all steel and MSRP is $1100 with a National Match barrel. |
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I've owned a lot of 1911's in that price range including:
SA RA SA TRP x 2 STI Trojan STI Spartan DW Heritage Double star Sig 1911 Ruger Probably more I can't think of. The DW Heritage is the best of the bunch and it isn't even close. The only other one I would consider in that price range is the STI Trojan. |
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I'll remind everyone only once that this is a tech forum, not general discussions. - SGB
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Reading this thread, I've stumbled upon the following deal :
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/71978 Question: Are all 1911's able to be made ambidextrous ? |
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