Posted: 10/5/2016 4:03:16 PM EDT
| Hello I am trying to find the best rail adapter to allow me to attach a light to my 1911. I was wanting to find the Surefire MR07. These seem to be really hard to find since they are discontinued. Anyone use the recover grips or have any suggestions? Thanks. |
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I bouht a mr07 but it is really kind of a waste. No holsters designed for it, so I'm limited to a universal tactical holster for open carry or an uncle Mike's iwb style for CCW without a light. I bought a fobus tactical holster but found out it still won't fit with the mr07. With the recover you are stuck with a suck ass grip. I'm building a 1911 with a railed frame now.
If all you want it for is home defense then I guess either would work, but if you plan on CCW both will make that very difficult. I also tried the CAA rail that attaches to the trigger guard, POS, first time shooting it rotates down at a 45 degree angle to the barrel. |
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I ordered and just received a set of the Recover Phantom rail today. It's about what I was expecting, a lightweight plastic consisting of two halves that screw together onto your 1911. I didn't use the instructions to install these as it was very intuitive. Just remove the current grips and put the two halves together and use the grip screws to secure the grip and then screw on included two screws over the trigger guard and near the rail. Took about 3 minutes to install. My Surefire X300 Ultra lights worked fine as did my Streamlight TLT-1 HL. It won't fit in my holsters that are made for a 1911 with a rail. It looks like the trigger guard prevents this because the front of the trigger guard is bigger and makes the trigger guard square instead of round.
It looks like this set up might very well work with a holster that is made to fit a 1911 pistol with rail and the light mounted on the rail as the light covers the squared trigger guard. Unfortunately, I don't have a holster made for a 1911 with the light mounted on the pistol. These holsters usually are made specifically for the particular brand of light attached to the rail. I'll be using this rail system while my 1911 is at home with the light attached. Unfortunately, I don't have a holster for it so I can't use it when I leave the house. It is as I expected a lightweight, gray colored plastic. It's too bad they didn't design this with a rounded trigger guard and moved the screw attachment up between the rail and upper portion of the trigger guard. I really think it would fit my current holsters without that squared trigger guard. But, it does what it was advertised to do. Add a light rail to a non-railed 1911. |
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Quoted: I ordered and just received a set of the Recover Phantom rail today. It's about what I was expecting, a lightweight plastic consisting of two halves that screw together onto your 1911. I didn't use the instructions to install these as it was very intuitive. Just remove the current grips and put the two halves together and use the grip screws to secure the grip and then screw on included two screws over the trigger guard and near the rail. Took about 3 minutes to install. My Surefire X300 Ultra lights worked fine as did my Streamlight TLT-1 HL. It won't fit in my holsters that are made for a 1911 with a rail. It looks like the trigger guard prevents this because the front of the trigger guard is bigger and makes the trigger guard square instead of round. It looks like this set up might very well work with a holster that is made to fit a 1911 pistol with rail and the light mounted on the rail as the light covers the squared trigger guard. Unfortunately, I don't have a holster made for a 1911 with the light mounted on the pistol. These holsters usually are made specifically for the particular brand of light attached to the rail. I'll be using this rail system while my 1911 is at home with the light attached. Unfortunately, I don't have a holster for it so I can't use it when I leave the house. It is as I expected a lightweight, gray colored plastic. It's too bad they didn't design this with a rounded trigger guard and moved the screw attachment up between the rail and upper portion of the trigger guard. I really think it would fit my current holsters without that squared trigger guard. But, it does what it was advertised to do. Add a light rail to a non-railed 1911. Holster issue aside....are you pleased with it? I was thinking about ordering a set to put on a night stand gun and if it met muster maybe get a set for a carry 1911. I make my own holsters so I don't care about off the shelf holster availability. |
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Holster issue aside....are you pleased with it? I was thinking about ordering a set to put on a night stand gun and if it met muster maybe get a set for a carry 1911. I make my own holsters so I don't care about off the shelf holster availability. Quoted:
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I ordered and just received a set of the Recover Phantom rail today. It's about what I was expecting, a lightweight plastic consisting of two halves that screw together onto your 1911. I didn't use the instructions to install these as it was very intuitive. Just remove the current grips and put the two halves together and use the grip screws to secure the grip and then screw on included two screws over the trigger guard and near the rail. Took about 3 minutes to install. My Surefire X300 Ultra lights worked fine as did my Streamlight TLT-1 HL. It won't fit in my holsters that are made for a 1911 with a rail. It looks like the trigger guard prevents this because the front of the trigger guard is bigger and makes the trigger guard square instead of round. It looks like this set up might very well work with a holster that is made to fit a 1911 pistol with rail and the light mounted on the rail as the light covers the squared trigger guard. Unfortunately, I don't have a holster made for a 1911 with the light mounted on the pistol. These holsters usually are made specifically for the particular brand of light attached to the rail. I'll be using this rail system while my 1911 is at home with the light attached. Unfortunately, I don't have a holster for it so I can't use it when I leave the house. It is as I expected a lightweight, gray colored plastic. It's too bad they didn't design this with a rounded trigger guard and moved the screw attachment up between the rail and upper portion of the trigger guard. I really think it would fit my current holsters without that squared trigger guard. But, it does what it was advertised to do. Add a light rail to a non-railed 1911. Holster issue aside....are you pleased with it? I was thinking about ordering a set to put on a night stand gun and if it met muster maybe get a set for a carry 1911. I make my own holsters so I don't care about off the shelf holster availability. Yes. It does what it is advertised to do. That is, it adds a rail to a non railed 1911. It's not very aesthetically pleasing, but, it does add a rail and it works. I'll keep it for my non railed 1911 at the house. |
| Just a FYI, here are a few holsters I've used that seem OK and can fit with various add on rails. tuff products universal IWB, eagle industries (usgi, found on eBay for $20, comes on a drop leg rig that can be removed) and the condor ma69. |
| Thank you all very much for the input. I have seen that bravo concealment makes a holster specifically for a 1911 with the mr07. I do carry a Surefire EB2 with Thrym for main flashlight work. Since I have a commander length Dan Wesson valor with vbob I would have to "modify" the recover grips anyways. Triming and stippling I think would make them a little more aesthetically pleasing, planning on running the new Surefire XC1 purely for backup purposes in a kydex holster I could heat and reform slightly to fit the gun better... |
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Just carry a flashlight. It beats pointing a gun to light things up. If you point a gun at me to see what I am I WILL likely shoot back. YOU pointed it first. Not much experience with light mounted lights or their use? Why would you point your weapon at anyone with the light? There is plenty of light bleed over by holding your weapon in the low ready position (muzzle pointed at 45 degree angle downward) that will light up the area in front of you to provide more than ample illumination to identify friend or foe. If it's foe you will be much quicker to raise the muzzle to respond than you will with a flashlight in your weak hand. Also, you will be a lot more accurate (able to hit your target and not an innocent bystander) with a weapon mounted light. We had to qualify once a year in low light course of fire and I was a lot quicker and more accurate than other agents using hand held flashlights. I do carry a flashlight (1,000 lumen Fenix) in my pocket for non threat normal night (and day inside buildings) illumination. A weapon mounted light is one of those tactical options that can give you a life saving edge like night sights. |
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Just carry a flashlight. It beats pointing a gun to light things up. If you point a gun at me to see what I am I WILL likely shoot back. YOU pointed it first. Seek out low light training I have training. We practiced using a flashlight in the off hand. Works very well and avoids the 'point a gun' to light up a target. Unlike the police pointing a gun at another person is a crime in most places. It is assault. YOU ARE NOT THE POLICE. You do not get to point guns at people to 'light them up.' You can actually see the sight alignment well enough in a muzzle flash to correct aiming errors. |
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I have training. We practiced using a flashlight in the off hand. Works very well and avoids the 'point a gun' to light up a target. Unlike the police pointing a gun at another person is a crime in most places. It is assault. YOU ARE NOT THE POLICE. You do not get to point guns at people to 'light them up.' You can actually see the sight alignment well enough in a muzzle flash to correct aiming errors. Quoted:
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Just carry a flashlight. It beats pointing a gun to light things up. If you point a gun at me to see what I am I WILL likely shoot back. YOU pointed it first. Seek out low light training I have training. We practiced using a flashlight in the off hand. Works very well and avoids the 'point a gun' to light up a target. Unlike the police pointing a gun at another person is a crime in most places. It is assault. YOU ARE NOT THE POLICE. You do not get to point guns at people to 'light them up.' You can actually see the sight alignment well enough in a muzzle flash to correct aiming errors. You dont need to aim your weapon to use your wml to id the possible threat. Ive trained with both. Using a wml is a huge improvement over just a handheld. |
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You dont need to aim your weapon to use your wml to id the possible threat. Ive trained with both. Using a wml is a huge improvement over just a handheld. Quoted:
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Just carry a flashlight. It beats pointing a gun to light things up. If you point a gun at me to see what I am I WILL likely shoot back. YOU pointed it first. Seek out low light training I have training. We practiced using a flashlight in the off hand. Works very well and avoids the 'point a gun' to light up a target. Unlike the police pointing a gun at another person is a crime in most places. It is assault. YOU ARE NOT THE POLICE. You do not get to point guns at people to 'light them up.' You can actually see the sight alignment well enough in a muzzle flash to correct aiming errors. You dont need to aim your weapon to use your wml to id the possible threat. Ive trained with both. Using a wml is a huge improvement over just a handheld. NOBODY SAID OR ADVOCATES POINTING A WML AT ANYONE. Read our posts more carefully Mr. Brickeyee. 03RN, you're correct and I already mentioned that and his (Brickeyee) response to my post totally ignores that point. I have to question his training if he doesn't get it. My training was though my federal agency and a number of other agencies, and the low ready position is pretty standard in most LE firearms training. You don't point your weapon at anyone unless that person is an imminent threat. In the low ready position the muzzle is pointed at a 45 degree angle toward the ground, not pointed at anyone. There's plenty of light reflection/bleed over that will light up anyone nearby without the weapon being pointed at anyone. I'm done. 
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