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6/22/2016 7:16:13 AM EDT
I'm very excited about taking delivery of a new 9mm Springfield Combat Operator tomorrow.  I've always wanted a TRP in 9mm, and this model seems to be as close as it gets these days.

I'm also expecting it to shoot low.  My 45 TRP had the same issue.  I sent it to Novak's to have both the front and rear sights replaced.  I'm now a lot closer to POA/POI  (7 to 25 yards)

Regarding this Combat Operator, I have a few questions;

1.  Please confirm if this pistol uses the typical Novak LoMount cut on the rear slide.  I'm not an expert on 1911 sight cuts

2.  Can I expect to get lucky enough to simply replace the front and rear, and have it shoot closer to POA? (7 to 25 yards)

3.  What about an adjustable rear sight? Is this a good option?  If so, what is the preferred brand?  I want something low-profile, and robust.


I short, I'm looking for opinions on how best I might handle the problem if my pistol shoots low.  All the reports I've read suggest I can expect this to happen.

Thanks for your time


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6/22/2016 7:37:11 AM EDT
[#1]
If your technique is good, you just need a shorter front sight. With a standard front sight, you could file and blacken.
6/22/2016 8:16:52 AM EDT
[#2]
You shouldn't need to send it off to replace the front and rear.  Simply buying the correct height front should do the trick.  

Go back to the range.  Get a good measurement of how far low it's shooting, hit the site below and calculate which sight you need, and buy the correct height for the front.  
https://dawsonprecision.com/sight-calculator/
6/22/2016 8:27:26 AM EDT
[#3]
A replacement front sight sounds like the easy button.

Thanks
6/22/2016 8:27:28 AM EDT
[#4]
I would make Springfield put proper sights on it. Or try and find a load that shoots closer to poa.
6/22/2016 8:29:56 AM EDT
[#5]
Shooting low is one of several things:
Bad sights ( least likely to be honest)
Bad technique ( flinching breaking wrist in recoil tightening grip while pressing trigger)
Grip issues- keep in mind the .gov went to the arched housing ( sadly not popular today ) in the A1 to reduce the tendency for shooters to hit low with the original 1911's
Before changing sights have a really good shooter test fire the gun. If it is low only for you the problem rests with you.
If indeed the gun does shoot low for all shooters you can try the arched housing first or simply a lower front sight
6/22/2016 3:39:19 PM EDT
[#6]
I have issues with low left POI with my 1911, and other pistols. An R.O./instructor watching me made a suggestion correcting my grip/trigger manipulation that corrected it. Old habits die hard. I still struggle with it, and have to concentrate to stay on POA. Especially towards the end of a shooting session.
If you tweak your sights to compensate, it will be like a crutch to you.

Do you really think that your sights are off?
6/22/2016 5:32:28 PM EDT
[#7]
I find that 9mm 1911s tend to have more POI issues than, say, 45s.   A SDM or adjustable Kensight rear that fits the Lo-Mount cut will usually do the trick if you really like your front sight and want to keep your front sight.
6/23/2016 2:57:49 AM EDT
[#8]
Nice piece.  I've been wanting to get my hands on one of the railed 9mm 1911s Springfield offers.



First thing I'd do after inspection and lubing would be to run different bullet weights through it to see which shot closer to point of aim, 115s, 124s and 147s.  Chances are you'll prefer one bullet weight over another for any number of reasons.  It sucks buying a shit load of ammo in a bullet weight that doesn't perform well for you.  Any issues with grouping, high, low, left, right, etc, I'd check against a known good shooter and make adjustments in my technique prior to adjustments being made to sights.
6/24/2016 6:05:57 AM EDT
[#9]
Aim higher.
6/24/2016 10:57:17 PM EDT
[#10]
My Sig C3 (compact 1911 with an Officers' frame and Commander barrel and slide) shot low out of the box.

Then I read the manual which said Sig sights are regulated so you cover the target with the sights.

So instead of the normal 6:00 hold on a bullseye target you actually cover the center of the bull with the front dot.

Maybe try that before spending bucks.
6/30/2016 12:11:00 PM EDT
[#11]
My experience with Springfield is that they're likely willing to exchange sights as needed to get your poi where it needs to be. Take careful measurements and you'll have to convince them you aren't just a doofus but actually are a competent shooter but they'll work with you.  In my case I had a Springfield compact shooting a foot low at 25 yds.  I explained that I needed a sight xx thousandths lower and described my group size we were good to go. (These were tritium so could t just file the front sight)  I used group size as evidence I had some competence as a shooter.
6/30/2016 8:37:16 PM EDT
[#12]
Shoot T 25 yards if the group ( regardless of where it impacts) is under 3 inches adjust sights. If it is more than four the. Adjust the shooter