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8/12/2015 1:29:20 AM EDT
I inherited one.  Seems nice, extended safety and slide release w/ spur hammer, internal extractor, neat how the matte parts of the SS finish are sort of sparkly.  

I am not really a 1911 guy, I have Glocks, and I am more of a 9mm guy.  Plus I am a lefty.  But I am not a cross eyed albino so I guess I've got that going for me.  

I guess I will trade or sell it as I do have a 45 cal Glock and I don't really want to end up w/ any more projects or have to learn how to smith on additional weapon types.  It does feel nice in the hand though and has a least a little sentimental value.  

Well, one technical question, can the geometry of the feed ramps in the frame and barrel be altered to be slightly more generous in exchange for just a wee bit of case support at 6 O'clock?  Or does a 1911 frame/barrel unlock more quickly than a Glock w/ a given load and the full chamber support is somehow necessary?


Or, can a frame be modified to take a ramped barrel instead of a normal one or is that not worth the bother when you can just get a new gun?  I just would like it to be able to feed HP ammo more generally if I keep it.

Also, does anyone have any opinions or observations on Colt 10 rd mags.  I have a few and they seem pretty tight compared to the colt and factory 7-8 rd mags.  

Thx
8/12/2015 1:39:50 AM EDT
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Throw it in the trash.

If it doesn't work, you'll have a nightmare of a time fixing it.

If it works, it's only a matter of time before something breaks.

These are no longer made for a reason, and most examples thankfully disappeared from existence.
8/12/2015 8:49:49 AM EDT
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After watching the Terminator movie I had to have one. The long slide was hard to come by so I settled on a brand new hardballer. I was like a kid at christmas and couldn't wait to get to the range. What a huge piece of shit. Would not fire more than 1 round without jamming. Spent days polishing and fucking with the turd. Was so happy when I sold it and have not regretted it at all. AMT was known for making all stainless steel firearms back when stainless steel was not very common, but they were also known for some of the worst QC in the industry. I did and still do think they had a cool logo...
8/12/2015 8:58:30 AM EDT
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Even in a good quality 1911 ( the amt is not) the mods you mention are not needed at all. Keep it to tinker or play with ( expecting problems) or dump it quick
8/12/2015 9:22:49 AM EDT
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After watching the Terminator movie I had to have one. The long slide was hard to come by so I settled on a brand new hardballer. I was like a kid at christmas and couldn't wait to get to the range. What a huge piece of shit. Would not fire more than 1 round without jamming. Spent days polishing and fucking with the turd. Was so happy when I sold it and have not regretted it at all. AMT was known for making all stainless steel firearms back when stainless steel was not very common, but they were also known for some of the worst QC in the industry. I did and still do think they had a cool logo...
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This one is completely reliable...



... but only because the slide and frame are the only original parts left, and it was built up by a very talented local 'smith years ago.

I could never come close to recouping the money sunk into this over the years, but I didn't have it re-worked to sell... I did so to shoot and enjoy it.  It is a gem, and one of my wife's favorite handguns to shoot, believe it or not.

8/12/2015 9:43:02 AM EDT
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The AMT guns that were made in the original plant in the 70's were actually good guns.  My dad has one of those.  Bought in 1977.  He has over 1000 rounds through it and never a malfunction or broken part.  After the company moved sometime in the early 80's is when they went to crap.

I bought a Hardballer in 1989 expecting it would be like my dads.  Unfortunately it was a turd.  You can look at the 2 and see the differences in the steel and quality control between the 2 guns.  My dads didn't have a tool mark on it.  Mine had swirls all over it on the inside.

I traded mine off to a gun shop years ago at a huge loss.  Depends on if you have one of the originals or the later models whether you have a good one or not.  There are a LOT more turds out there unfortunately...
8/12/2015 1:04:45 PM EDT
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thx guys.  It was apparently made in irwindale, ca and the slide has lawyer markings all over on one side saying "..read the manual..." etc. If that tells you anything about its vintage.  I syspect it is a later model b/c of its extended safety and slide lock lover which I saw on some on some other ones listed on gunbroker.  but I aslo saw some other ones w/o these features that were probably older.

ETA the gun and box look just like this:
8/12/2015 2:40:46 PM EDT
[#7]
If you are going to try and shoot it lube (quality grease) the piss out of it as some AMT had Stainless frames and slides that would gall due to the cress being to simular iirc.
8/12/2015 2:59:40 PM EDT
[#8]
The slides/top end can bring decent $ on ebay. I'd get a blued (colt maybe) top end and sell that one.
8/12/2015 9:44:49 PM EDT
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If you want to sell the slide 7'' model send me a pm been looking for one for a while.
8/13/2015 9:39:07 PM EDT
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Bought one about '83.  Never got it to run correctly.  Problem AMTs had was they used the same stainless alloy for frame and slide.  Stainless can be a bit 'sticky',  causing FTE, FTF.
I tried various lubes, without success.  It's the one non-collectible pistol I haven't shot in over 15 years.
8/13/2015 11:49:18 PM EDT
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thx guys.  It was apparently made in irwindale, ca and the slide has lawyer markings all over on one side saying "..read the manual..." etc. If that tells you anything about its vintage.  I syspect it is a later model b/c of its extended safety and slide lock lover which I saw on some on some other ones listed on gunbroker.  but I aslo saw some other ones w/o these features that were probably older.

ETA the gun and box look just like this:
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Just looked on my dads AMT.  It is stamped made in El Monte, CA.  My old one (turd) had the Irwindale stamping.  If you look at them on a map they don't appear to be very far apart.
8/14/2015 2:45:34 AM EDT
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If you want to sell the slide 7'' model send me a pm been looking for one for a while.
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it is just a 5" barrel, not a long slide.
8/14/2015 2:52:05 AM EDT
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My Longslide is probably my first or second favorite handgun to shoot. It's had some work done to it though.
8/14/2015 8:13:05 AM EDT
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what Gregory K said...the early stainless guns had a terrible galling (metal stripping off at contact areas) problem
8/15/2015 10:10:57 PM EDT
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Bought one about '83.  Never got it to run correctly.  
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Ditto.  Spent a modest amount of money to try and get it to work - but traded it off for an AR15 to a guy who absolutely had to have stainless and thought he could get it to work.
8/17/2015 10:40:00 AM EDT
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I had a AMT Longslide back in 86'.  Friend of mine is a gunsmith and took that longslide and married it up with a ODI Viking DA frame (Seecamp).  I then had a Colt Series 70s blued slide for it with Smith K frame sights.  Later he fitted a Michigian Armament slide that is hard chromed and magnaported.  Still shooting and carrying that 1911 whenever I'm home.  Course only thing that is still AMT is the frame, slide stop, and mag release.




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