Posted: 5/25/2014 12:05:47 PM EDT
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Hey guys,
I've had my SA Loaded in .45ACP for a little while now, and I've noticed that every 15-20 rounds or so it has a failure. It's sometimes a basic failure to feed the round from the mag and sometimes it fails to fully go into battery, where the slide it sits about 1/8-1/4 inch back, and if it just tap the back of the slide with my palm, it will seat fully. I've tried several different kinds of mags - SA factory 7 rounders, Wilson Combat 7, 8, and 10 rounders - the failures occur in all of them. I've also tried different types of ammo - UMC 230gr. FMJ, Winchester white box 230gr. FMJ, Speer 230 JHPs, and few others without any noticeable difference in the rate of failure occurrence. Over all, I'd say I've put 1000-1200 rounds total through it since I bought it new. Right now I'm thinking maybe I need a new recoil spring? Suggested spring weights? Anything else you guys think I should check out? Thanks. |
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mine gobbles up everything.
I put a wilson combat 16# spring in it. Shot 200 rounds of Tula today and it ate everything. I will say that I've one wilson 47D mag that has given me problems in every 1911 I've owned, traded it today with ironhandjohn for a mecgar that works great. (sure its not an even trade, but a working mag is better than a non working mag in this pistol). springer, kimber, CMC, mec gar, and act mags all work fine for my loaded. |
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wolff used to offer a spring pack of 14,16, and 18# springs for $20 iirc. might try and see if it cures your feeding. factory spring weight I believe is 16# Quoted:
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try a 18 lb spring? wolff used to offer a spring pack of 14,16, and 18# springs for $20 iirc. might try and see if it cures your feeding. factory spring weight I believe is 16# what I mean is a heaver spring should help strip the round out of the mag and help lock open when empty. please correct me if I am mislead. |
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what I mean is a heaver spring should help strip the round out of the mag and help lock open when empty. please correct me if I am mislead. Quoted:
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try a 18 lb spring? wolff used to offer a spring pack of 14,16, and 18# springs for $20 iirc. might try and see if it cures your feeding. factory spring weight I believe is 16# what I mean is a heaver spring should help strip the round out of the mag and help lock open when empty. please correct me if I am mislead. You are correct. |
| While cleaning it after the range trip today, I had an extra wolf 16 1/2 pound spring that I replaced mine with and I must say, this one feels noticeably stiffer. I'll try to get it out tomorrow to see, hopefully that will fix the problem - but picking up the variety wolf spring pack may not be a bad idea. I wouldn't mind going up to 18 pounds or so. |
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16lb standard rate recoil, 20-23lb main, fresh Wilson 47, Tripp, or CMC magazine and a good brand of hardball. WWB, American Eagle, Lawman, PMC, Wolf, whatever.
If the gun works fine until the spring wears out, why replace a spring that's too heavy?? If it won't run with the above stuff, you probably have an extractor problem. |
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16lb standard rate recoil, 20-23lb main, fresh Wilson 47, Tripp, or CMC magazine and a good brand of hardball. WWB, American Eagle, Lawman, PMC, Wolf, whatever. If the gun works fine until the spring wears out, why replace a spring that's too heavy?? If it won't run with the above stuff, you probably have an extractor problem. Maybe I'm missing something additional, can you explain how the extractor may interfere with returning to battery? As far as I can tell, the extraction and ejection have been perfect. I have tried multiple types of ammo and mags as suggested without any change in FTFd rates. It's been raining buckets all day, so no range luck today. |
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The case rim has to slip up under the extractor. If the extractor is too tight, rough, not beveled correctly, or just out of spec and too close to the breech face, it can constipate the whole feeding process. The easiest way to tell if it an extractor is remove it and try to chamber rounds by releasing from slide lock. If the problem still exists, it is a barrel or feed ramp problem and should go back to Springfield. The best running 1911's I have owned were not sensitive to mag type, extractor tension, recoil spring weight or bullet type. |
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The easiest way to tell if it an extractor is remove it and try to chamber rounds by releasing from slide lock. If the problem still exists, it is a barrel or feed ramp problem and should go back to Springfield. The best running 1911's I have owned were not sensitive to mag type, extractor tension, recoil spring weight or bullet type. Quoted:
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The case rim has to slip up under the extractor. If the extractor is too tight, rough, not beveled correctly, or just out of spec and too close to the breech face, it can constipate the whole feeding process. The easiest way to tell if it an extractor is remove it and try to chamber rounds by releasing from slide lock. If the problem still exists, it is a barrel or feed ramp problem and should go back to Springfield. The best running 1911's I have owned were not sensitive to mag type, extractor tension, recoil spring weight or bullet type. This is true. A properly setup 1911 is one of the most reliable handguns period. Unfortunately not many manufacturers make 'em right. |
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Extractor is on the tight side.
1. Remove SA extractor 2. Bend it into U shape 3. Replace with Wilson combat or other forged quality unit 4. Learn to tune 1911 extractors That's what worked for me, also the SA seems to loosen up after 300-500rds after you tune it, YMMV. |